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    Loopwheels: shock-absorbing suspension for wheelchairs

    On Kickstarter...

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...n-for-wheelcha

    #2
    Has anyone tried these yet? They look to be available now https://www.loopwheels.com/products/wheelchairs/


    Partner of an incredible stroke survivor. Limitations: hemiparesis and neglect (functional paralysis and complete lack of awareness on one side). Equipment: TiLite ZRA 2 and 2GX, Spinergy ZX-1, RioMobility Firefly. Knowledge: relative newbie for high-level equipment (2012), but willing to try to help others who are new with similar limitations (definitely not a guru, but inquisitive).

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      #3
      Interesting. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "A spring is not a suspension." I think I'll pass.
      "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

      "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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        #4
        I just saw this in the latest ASME Mechanical Engineering magazine. 70mm of travel? My footplate would be scraping pavement for sure! Love the look, though.

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          #5
          These are not light the rim alone without push rim or tire/tube is 4 lbs

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            #6
            @Katja, my brother in the bike biz sent me that article also. I've been following them a couple of years, along with SoftWheel Acrobat wheels.

            I am also concerned about the amount of travel. My husband has 2 inch / 50mm of clearance under the footplate. He only weighs approximately 65 kg (143 pounds), but does not go off a lot of curbs.


            The weight is also a concern. Loopwheels 24" wheels = 3.96 pounds / 1.8kg, which is double Spinergy LX 24" wheels = 1.5lb / .68kg .


            Probably my biggest concern is probably not being able to use them with D's Hub locks.

            For anyone interested, they can be ordered on their website and start at about GBP 695 (ex. VAT) for black, which is about Euro 877 / US $999, and run higher for different colours and options for hand rims. They appear to ship internationally.
            Last edited by elarson; 2 Apr 2016, 5:46 AM.
            Partner of an incredible stroke survivor. Limitations: hemiparesis and neglect (functional paralysis and complete lack of awareness on one side). Equipment: TiLite ZRA 2 and 2GX, Spinergy ZX-1, RioMobility Firefly. Knowledge: relative newbie for high-level equipment (2012), but willing to try to help others who are new with similar limitations (definitely not a guru, but inquisitive).

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              #7
              They really need to hire an adventurous type SCI user to give them a really good trial/review and film it, otherwise we'll all just sit here and ponder. That is quite the financial commitment to something that could really suck for a wheelchair user.

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                #8
                Maybe they will send some to the Abilities Expo. I would never purchase something like this without trying first. Wouldn't the softness make it harder to push the wheelchair?
                I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                  #9
                  I saw it in the ASME magazine too. Lol, that magazine has really gone downhill in the last few years. I guess I'm getting old but it's just too busy. The wheel design is very neat.

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                    #10
                    I sent an e-mail with a few questions to Loopwheels, and they were very quick to reply back. Here are my questions and their answers:

                    Is it possible to retrofit our Surge LT rims? It appears you use Carbolife rims now, but I saw in the FAQ about Surge rims.

                    I’m pleased to confirm Surge LT pushrims are compatible with our wheels, slight modification is required to the fittings but we do this ourselves so they can be sent ready fitted to the wheels for you. The Curve is a new edition to our range and we’re excited about it’s release here in the UK.
                    I saw on the website that there is "Up to 70mm suspension travel". My husband has 2 inch / 50mm of clearance under the footplate. He only weighs approximately 65 kg (143 pounds), but does not go off a lot of curbs. Do you think there will be a problem with clearance?

                    The mention of 70mm suspension travel relates to our 20” bike/trike wheels and doesn’t apply to the wheelchair wheels so there is no cause for concern. Also we recommend a minimum weight of approximately 50kg to appreciate the benefits of the loophweels so your husband’s weight fits comfortably within this. Although he doesn’t drop down many kerbs he would certainly notice the reduction in vibration. Our users tell us less effort is required to push the wheels and just how comfortable they make the ride.
                    I also gave them information about D's Hub Locks, which they are currently not compatible with. After looking at Loopwheels more, I really don't see how there could be any way to make a lockring adapter compatible, but who knows. I know D's Locks has a wheel adapter for Invacare/TopEnd, Quickie and Skyway 6 and 7 Spoke Mag wheels, so maybe it would not be so much different. Does anyone happen to have a photo of D's Locks on any of those wheels that they could share? Should we decide to go further with Loopwheels, I will be contact with D's Locks about it.
                    Partner of an incredible stroke survivor. Limitations: hemiparesis and neglect (functional paralysis and complete lack of awareness on one side). Equipment: TiLite ZRA 2 and 2GX, Spinergy ZX-1, RioMobility Firefly. Knowledge: relative newbie for high-level equipment (2012), but willing to try to help others who are new with similar limitations (definitely not a guru, but inquisitive).

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                      #11
                      E reports that Loopwheels says" "...Our users tell us less effort is required to push the wheels..."
                      Loopwheels might be monitoring CC as this question wasn't asked directly of them. Maybe they will explain why these wheels would be easier to push than solid wheels.
                      I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by nonoise View Post
                        E reports that Loopwheels says" "...Our users tell us less effort is required to push the wheels..."
                        Loopwheels might be monitoring CC as this question wasn't asked directly of them. Maybe they will explain why these wheels would be easier to push than solid wheels.

                        Why, you ask?! Perhaps their users tell them that Because someone paying $1,000 for a set of wheels will say anything not to look like a fool.
                        "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

                        "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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                          #13
                          I've made the Loopwheels people aware of this thread, and also another on the Apparalyzed forum should they want to give input.

                          I'm doing a wait and see, but thought I'd share what I had learned. Personally, I am glad that there are small companies going for it, and am less than happy with bigger companies taking over and providing mediocre results and service.
                          Partner of an incredible stroke survivor. Limitations: hemiparesis and neglect (functional paralysis and complete lack of awareness on one side). Equipment: TiLite ZRA 2 and 2GX, Spinergy ZX-1, RioMobility Firefly. Knowledge: relative newbie for high-level equipment (2012), but willing to try to help others who are new with similar limitations (definitely not a guru, but inquisitive).

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oddity View Post
                            Why, you ask?! Perhaps their users tell them that Because someone paying $1,000 for a set of wheels will say anything not to look like a fool.
                            $1k doesn't bother me if there is enough benefit, I'd just like to know why a soft wheel would be easier to push. I'd think equal or harder.
                            I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by nonoise View Post
                              $1k doesn't bother me if there is enough benefit, I'd just like to know why a soft wheel would be easier to push. I'd think equal or harder.
                              Yeah, I was just being silly, but it is true that people that spend money on stuff tend to be a bit biased toward not being seen as having foolishly wasted it.

                              I can't imagine why they'd be easier to push, either. They may carry momentum farther. I just don't know. That claim is definitely counter intuitive.
                              "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

                              "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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