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  • Tilite tr3 vs. top end terminator

    Does anyone have experience with these chairs? Which do you believe to be the better ride? Pros or cons?

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    I've owned both. The Top Ends when Chris Peterson was building them was the best chair I owned. The one I bought after Chris sold to Invacare was not any where near what the older Terminator was. When it came time for a new chair I bought a ZRA to dial in the measurements for the Tr I'm sitting in now. Getting ready to order a Tr3. The Tilite is a good chair but like the other manufactures, as they got bigger the customer service has gone down. For one, a person can't buy parts directly from them, you have to go thru a dme.

    If Lasher or Box took insurance, I'd buy one of them but will be satisfied with the Tr3. Will never go back to a Top End again. IMO Tilite is my preferred chair between the two.

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    • #3
      I heard that Box chair don't thave heat treatment after welding, how strong will it last?
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      • #4
        I am sitting on a TR3 almost 2 years old. I will say it is great. Really no issues. Jut need keep replacing scissor brakes, but I like the brakes. No smashing fingers. I do not add "add-ons" to chairs. I try to keep weight of chair as small as possible. If mfg getting bigger as stated above, that not good. I do like the TR3 and hope I am sitting on it for a good time.

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          Tr3
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          • #6
            Tr3 imo i dont think i can find a fault with it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sowseng View Post
              I heard that Box chair don't thave heat treatment after welding, how strong will it last?
              Is anyone post-weld heat tempering, today?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                I've owned both. The Top Ends when Chris Peterson was building them was the best chair I owned. The one I bought after Chris sold to Invacare was not any where near what the older Terminator was.
                Just out of curiosity, when was that? I bought my Top End in 1994, and it's still in great shape (well, I've replaced the sideguards, casters, and upholstery, but the frame and axle are solid).

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                • #9
                  I think Chris sold it in the late '90's but still ran the T/E division and built chairs and handcycles in Pinellas. In the mid 2000's Invacare decided to start building the chairs elsewhere. Chris is basically just doing the racing handcycles now, if that. I'm sure someone will have a better update. I first came to know Chris when Rick Hanson was doing his run around the world in '85.
                  Last edited by Patrick Madsen; 10-19-2014, 02:59 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Katja View Post
                    Just out of curiosity, when was that? I bought my Top End in 1994, and it's still in great shape (well, I've replaced the sideguards, casters, and upholstery, but the frame and axle are solid).
                    Let me try that again (getting old's a bitch!). I bought it in 2004.

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                    • #11
                      I don't think the info about Chris is right, I went to Florida myself to get my Terminator Titanium made by Chris in Pinnelas Park at the end of 2006, so it has to be after that that they stopped making them there. BTW, the chair is still like new.
                      Pharmacist, C4-5 injury but functional C6 (no triceps/flexors)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sowseng View Post
                        I heard that Box chair don't thave heat treatment after welding, how strong will it last?

                        If wheelz fotheringham uses them it has to be strong! And mike box stands behind his chairs 100% as well anything happens or breaks he will fix or replace.
                        T6 Incomplete due to a Spinal cord infarction July 2009

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                        • #13
                          I would not consider the Terminator because of my experience of the similar (or same) axle setup that my top end A4 has. It's system is heavy and tricky to adjust the alignment between the two rear wheels.
                          I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Smashms View Post
                            If wheelz fotheringham uses them it has to be strong! And mike box stands behind his chairs 100% as well anything happens or breaks he will fix or replace.
                            This. Box is famous for two things: durability and customer service ethic. Beats out major manufacturers by a mile in that respect. I can't even get TiLite on the damn phone.

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