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  • Questions About Wheelchairs/Components in General, and Specifically for TiLite Aero Z

    Hey all. Short time reader, first time poster.

    In an effort to keep this opening post relatively short, I will skip some of the back story and just say that I have had my current chair (A QUICKIE GTX) for 8 years. The way everything transpired was less than satisfactory; in fact, I just recently found out that the chair is actually customized for an amputee -- which I am not (my "injury" -- due to Neurosarcoidosis causing an intramedullary spinal cord tumor at T-11 - T-12). I always knew the chair wasn't right, and haven't been comfortable in it from the start, but I needed it to be able to leave the hospital, and now at least I know why I haven't ever enjoyed it.

    I say that to say this: I am currently in the process of getting a new (my second) chair, and I couldn't be more excited. Also, given what happened, it is even that much more important to me that this goes well. Again, leaving out the unnecessary back story, the DME with which I'm currently dealing (NOT the same as the first time) isn't being very forthcoming with answers to my questions, and I have already "caught" the MPT/APT and DME changing things in their report/order plan without first consulting me.

    After that, and my questions being answered with -- and I mean this literally -- "Just trust us," I took it upon myself to look through TiLite's website, comparing things with the order form that can be found on said site, and used that to come up with a list of components I would like. I know that some of these may not be completely covered by my insurance, and am willing to cover the leftover costs out of pocket; though it would be nice to have an idea of how much it might be before hand, given that it could change my decision. That is yet another question they wouldn't even attempt to answer, but I digress.

    For reference, the chair will be a TILITE AERO Z. Some of my questions will pertain to that model and make specifically, but many are more generalized questions that could be answered by owners of other chairs as well.

    1. Do you any of you have the AERO Z? If so, overall, do you enjoy it? If you'd like to list pros and cons, that would be great. On the order form, there are two types listed. One is more expensive, and then the second specifies that it is Titanium, and it's less expensive. I don't know what the first is made out of, but according to the report from the DME, that more expensive version is the one I'm getting. Does anyone know what that is?

    2. Regarding add-ons such as handles (which I 100% do not want, but they keep trying to include them anyway, ugh), anti-tippers, and side guards, are they completely removable? Meaning, the part(s) of the chair that hold those things in place (I don't know the terms for those, sorry), can you remove those as well and have it look as if they were never on the chair in the first place?

    I ask this because while I don't necessarily want any of those things, this chair is going to be drastically different than my current chair. The wheels are going to be moved almost six inches forward, for instance, and I wonder if the anti-tippers would be helpful until I get used to the changes. But, after that, I want no sign of them. If it comes down to it, I will have to choose aesthetics over a non-cracked skull, haha.

    3. Those of you who have used this particular chair, are the side guards necessary? In person, Do you think it looks better with or without them?

    4. Have any TiLite users gotten their chain in the "Black Lava" (for other brands, it's basically a matte black) color? Does it look good in person?

    5. If you have your chair in any color other than silver, does it drive you crazy if you weren't able to have the bars of the footrest painted in that same color, as it seems is the case with TiLite? Or, am I wrong, and you can in fact have it painted as well?

    6. I'm going for a basically all black look, and to get all black front wheels, I will have to upgrade to the 4?x1.5? LITESPEED BILLET ALUMINUM WHEEL W/SOFT ROLL TIRE. Anyone have those, and if so, thoughts?

    7. This is one I'm expecting to be rejected by my insurance, but for rear wheels, I really would like the SPINERGY LX. Do any of you have either of them, and if so, do you enjoy them? Were they worth the extra money?

    Also, and particularly if you have a black chair, does that fact that the hub is silver bother you at all? Or, are you able to get the hub colored the same as the spokes? I'm thinking that even if the hub has to be silver, it may look kind of nice against the black.

    8. I also enjoy the TWIN-STAR EXCHANGE wheels (though I am leaning toward the LX's), and those would fit the all-black motif pretty well, so, do any of you have those? Do you enjoy them? Were they worth the extra money?

    9. Given that I don't need much support, they want to put a J3 BACKREST on it. Are you comfortable with yours? Does it look presentable on the chair, from all angles?

    10. Along with the support statement, the MPT/APT suggested that my cushion is more of an issue of comfort, and suggested the VARILITE ZOID refillable cushion. Does it work well for you?

    11. SCISSOR LOCKS, yay or nay? Keep in mind I have no issues with my hands/arms.

    12. TIRES. These I know next to nothing about. The ones on the chair I tried out were thin and had very little tread, and I was told they were solid. Given the all black look I'm going for, I would like these to be black as well. I'm told I'm getting 24'' wheels. I don't see an option for colors on the order form, so the ones that come in black (and are solid and come in 24'' with minimal tread) are the HERRINGBONE TREAD. How are they? Do you know of others?

    While it probably doesn't need saying, I plan on getting black pushrims as well.

    13. I don't know that this will matter much, but I want the solid panel foot rest. Is that the FLAT ABS COVER? Any cons to it?

    14. In lieu of the handles, as I mentioned earlier, I would like the bar that goes across the back of the chair. Is that called the Rigidizer Bar? Have any of you had any problems when being helped up a step with this?

    15. Any random bits of info you'd like to share, or wish you had known going into your last ordering process?

    I apologize for this being so long, but as I said, I can't get anyone involved in the process to answers these. I know I have more questions, but I will stop here for now and update as necessary. In advance, I very much appreciate those of you who take the time to read and respond to this. You're lifesavers.

    The rest of you? Meh...

    Haha.
    Last edited by User Name; 08-10-2014, 01:10 AM.

  • #2
    To your questions

    1. I don't have and aero z.. I have an Icon A1
    2. Yes anti tippers are removable. Yes some of the side guards are remove able. Handles are remove able. Fold down are great.
    3. Yes side guards are helpful. They help keep your clothes clean.
    4. Yes matte black looks good
    5. No foot rest color doesn't matter to me
    6. Soft fools are awesome
    7. Spinergy spot hVe a better chance of getting approved. I like the silver hub.
    8. No I have never tried twin star
    9. I have a varilite Icon back and love it
    10. Varilite zooid is a great cushion. Stimulate is also a great cushion.
    11. I like scissor locks. But d's locks are better
    12. Shawlbe marathons are great tires
    13. Yes it's a flat abs cover. I use skateboard grip tape.
    14.no it don't hurt the chair for people to help with the rid giddier bar.

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    • #3
      I'm just going to reply to a couple of your things real quick because I have a headache, but didn't want to not reply at all.

      For all black tires you might be interested in the Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires. They're really nice, though do add a bit of weight which I didn't like. I have a Jay3 back and love it, but it seems odd you DONT need much support and they are recommending one, I need a lot of back support and custom support so I have a mid thoracic Jay3 with lumbar support block velcroed in. If you're willing to pay, you can get black spoke spinergy LX with black hubs but black spokes usually come with silver hubs so you have to pay an upcharge for the special order. I don't have any silver on my chair, and would have been annoyed with black spokes and silver hubs but thats just me. My chair is blue, and then most everything else is black except my soft rolls casters have yellow tires with the black hubs.

      I would put more consideration into cushion choice and try to sit on the cushions first. But I'm on my first wheelchair and you've had one for 8 years, so you probably have it worked out what cushions work for you? So, what have you been sitting on and do you like it? I've had a lot of issues with cushions myself.

      Of the items that you asked about being removable, I believe everything but possibly the push handles can be completely removed. With push handles it depends on what kind you get, one option is integrated into the frame and so not removable. Another option is fold down push handles, which I have on my chair and really like them. But I plan on getting no push handles on my next chair, and if you don't want them I'd push the issue and demand no push handles. Its YOUR chair, YOU have to live with it and if they said "trust me" again when you try to get things the way you want, tell them to go fuck themselves literally or figuratively and get what YOU want.

      For flat footrest you should be able to get either the one with the abs cover, or the angle adjustable one. The flip up option also has a flat solid footrest as opposed to an open tube frame.
      Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

      I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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      • #4
        I love my AeroZ Series 1 (with a Jay3), which Tilite doesn't make anymore. The current AeroZ (once known as the Series 2) has different hardware, and in my opinion it's better - especially the fork-angle adjustments. It's late tonight, and I'm headed to bed, but I'll respond more tomorrow. I've posted on CCC a lot about my chair, so search my posts if you like.

        Welcome to CCC

        Oh, because I'm ignorant, can you stand and walk any? Do you have sensation in your legs and/or bottom? What terrain do you normally travel on? Inside, outside, paving, cobble stones? Are you subject to leg spasms? Do you have access to a seating clinic? What backrest and what size have you been using?
        Chas
        TiLite TR3
        Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
        I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

        "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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        • #5
          1. Don't have the Aero Z. Have tried it and it seems like a really well put-together chair. I have owned aluminum chairs and have 2 titanium ones now. Titanium is more expensive, but for me it's worth it. I keep my chairs for 10-15 years. Aluminum dents, paint chips and scratches too easily for me. Titanium is very hard and durable, and it doesn't fatigue as easily as aluminum. Plus, if you do scratch it, it can be buffed to a beautiful shine.

          2.
          I gave up on armrests, push handles, and anti-tip bars long ago. Paraplegics don't need them. They add extra weight and cost. Damn armrests always break off for me. Both removable and folding side guards can be permanently and completely removed if you want to. Just unbolt the mounting clamps from the frame. But I like side/clothing guards. They save my pants and shirts. I keep my chairs as narrow as possible.

          3.
          The chair will look better with side guards because you will look better with them holding you and your clothing in away from your wheels.

          4.
          N/A for me.

          5.
          I never really considered it important to have it painted this way. With titanium you can get titanium, footrest, backrest, camber bar, axles, front fork shafts, and pushrims.

          6.
          I have this size LiteSpeed, soft roll, Slipstream forks on one of my chairs. I think they lose a little in responsiveness over std forks with hard rolls, but they let me glide over transitions and rough patches.

          7.
          I have TiLite Shadow wheels, standard wires, and Spinergy LX. The LXs look really cool (So do Round Betty Dinos). Other than looks, I don't notice any performance difference. I think tires affect performance more.

          8.
          N/A for me.

          9.
          N/A again. I always use cloth.

          10.
          Comfort my ass! Your cushion is about survival. Surviving pressure related sores, for one thing. It's a very personal, important choice because everyone's rear-end forms a different pressure map. That's why people get pressure mapping done.

          11.
          I used to always get scissors. I liked that my wheel locks were tucked away under my chair. Now, I don't want them. I like the TiLite standard composite locks. There so easy to lock and unlock. I use them all the time to keep from rolling, when working on the car, sweeping the floor, transferring, pushing stuff, pulling stuff, kissing my wife...you get the picture. Just about everything causes an efficient chair to roll and turn--even the wind. If you don't like the way the handle/levers stick up, mount them upside-down so the levers point down and out of the way; they're still easier than scissors.

          12.
          I like solid tires like Shox (no flats). They come in several colors. But Schwable Marathons are king when it comes to pneumatics. 24" wheels are good. I have several pairs. But, depending on your size and fit, don't count out 25". Bigger wheels=faster push. Smaller=more power. I have 26" on one of my chairs and I can fly with them.

          13.
          [This is fun.] The ABS cover and adjustable angle footrests are both "flat."

          14.
          They all have rigidizer bars. The 4" option is for a deeper bar so you have more room for fancy backrests.

          15.
          Double and triple check everything yourself. Ask questions. And request a CAD drawing.
          Last edited by ala; 08-10-2014, 01:55 AM.

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          • #6
            I see I've already gotten some replies, and I am very excited to read through them tomorrow (it's just about 2:30 AM here and I will be heading to bed in a few minutes). Thank you so much. I will reply after reading them.

            One thing I wanted to add is that the DME said he would just call me and go over the order before he placed it. Is it normal to do that over the phone? It would be the one and only conversation we had beyond "I like this particular chair" and it seems to me that should be done in person so I could see what we're talking about. Am I wrong?

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            • #7
              "...and I have already "caught" the MPT/APT and DME changing things in their report/order plan without first consulting me..."
              TiLite has a unique method to guarantee you get what you agree to. All you have to do is ask for the CAD computer aided drawing of your submittable. They will want you to sign off on it, don't let the DME sign on off for you.

              Are you being seen by a seating specialist? It's pretty important to get this thing spec'd correct.

              As for add ons, if in doubt about immediate need, ask here if its an item that is easily found on the open market as anything purchased through your DME will be priced as if insurance is picking up the tab.
              I have had periodic paralysis all my life. I lost my ability to walk in 2011 beginning with a spinal block, which was used for a hip fracture caused by periodic paralysis.

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              • #8
                I don't have that chair but I'm on my third manual chair as a quad. I'm using a quickie Q7 at the moment because that's what my insurance would cover, it's very adjustable and really light. Getting the right cushion is extremely important. I've had several sores because of problems with my cushions. I would look for someone to do a seating evaluation with pressure mapping. Pressure mapping shows where the most pressure is on your bottom and helps you determine which is the best cushion. They can also get the right sizes on the wheelchair as far as width, depth, seatback height, seat to food rest length, front and rear seat heights from the ground and any other measurement you can think of. This is important, DEMO DEMO DEMO DEMO! Try out what you're interested in before you put all that money into it. Through insurance you can only get a new chair once every five years I think. Hopefully this will help you grow in the right direction
                C-5/6, 7-9-2000
                Scottsdale, AZ

                Make the best out of today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come. Nobody knows that better than those of us that have almost died from spinal cord injury.

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                • #9
                  Here's a picture of what pressure mapping looks like.
                  C-5/6, 7-9-2000
                  Scottsdale, AZ

                  Make the best out of today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come. Nobody knows that better than those of us that have almost died from spinal cord injury.

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                  • #10
                    If you don't want push handles, don't get them. DO NOT let them talk you into it.

                    Good luck.
                    Rollin' since '89. Complete C8

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                    • #11
                      Hi,

                      I'm not sure what your name is, because for some reason it is not appearing. I'm glad to see that you are getting a lot of good input.

                      You are very wise to make sure you understand everything you are getting, and take a strong role in the process. I do not think it is smart to just review the order on the telephone. I think it is reasonable to expect more explanation than you have received and be able to ask questions and discuss options. That is the whole point in having a dealer, and what they receive a 30-40% commission for. We also require that the dealer sends us the filled in PDF order form to approve in advance submitting it. It will save you a lot of time and headaches if there are mistakes. Our dealer was using an older order form and it really screwed things up. Also, as others have mentioned, make sure that you get a CAD drawing that only you sign off on.

                      I'm the partner of someone who uses a TiLite ZRA and 2GX wheelchairs and is not SCI. The ZRA is similar to the Aero Z, but is titanium as opposed to aluminium. Because of that, my comments will be more just general in relation to the Aero Z order form (dated July 1, 2014).

                      1. AZFS1 TiLite Aero Z is the core aluminium frame. AZFS4 Titanium Frame is an upcharge for a titanium frame instead of aluminium. If you are wanting titanium, it is cheaper to go with a ZRA than pay the upcharge on an Aero Z, assuming your funding source will allow that. What your DME said does not make sense to me. They could be referring to A2P1 SuperLite Edition, which is for titanium and carbon fiber options, as opposed to aluminium options, but the frame would still be aluminium. They could also be referring to the A2RFR1 Reinforced Frame, but again, that would be aluminium and not titanium.

                      2. It's really expensive to add these things on later, and perhaps that is why they are being recommended. Push handles handles can be removed. My husband needs push handles, so we got the fold-downs which are really nice, and mostly out of the way if not needed. The anti-tipper clamp/recpetacle and the side guard clamps can also be completely removed. If you want to know what the actual parts are, go to the e-store http://estore.tilite.com/ecommerce. You will want to look for parts and assemblies for the Aero Z Series 2 (not the Series 1).

                      3. Regardless of the type of chair, I think side guards are a personal choice. They certainly help protect clothes, but if you really don't need them, they are not necessary.

                      4. 5. We go with satin titanium so it can be buffed out and black for everything when there is a choice. I know that with the Black Editions http://www.tilite.com/chairs_blackeditions.php you can get a Black Lava Footrest, but that edition is not available for the Aero Z. You may also want to check the Designs Unlimited Catalog http://www.tilite.com/documents/TiLi..._Unlimited.pdf which shows DU100087 Mixed Color Anodized Parts on page 56, which I "think" means you could have the footrest painted as well.

                      6. We have Frog Legs Epic Aluminum Soft Rolls because the Litespeeds were not available when we got the chair. I've heard they are quite similar and people seem to like them. We really like the wider soft rolls for vibration dampening.

                      7. We also were rejected for Spinergy LX's. We order the standard TiLite Shadow wheels and ordered the Spinergy LX's online separately and swapped them out. It's nice to have the Shadow's as backups. We really like them, and I do think they help with vibration dampening. My husband really wanted all black, so we ordered the hub in black to match the black spokes. I don't know why Spinergy has an upcharge for that ($80 I think) because the black hub is standard for other colors of spokes.

                      8. No experience, but if you search the forum you will see some posts. I know that ResonantEcho has them, and I think he likes them.

                      9. No experience. If you are getting a solid seat back like the J3, you might want to consider the A2SB19 4" Deep Backrest Rigidizer Bar. My husband has and ADI carbon fiber seat back and base, and the 4" is needed to maintain his seat depth and also to be able to fold down the back flat.

                      10. I go with what others have said about this topic. It is way more than just an issue of comfort.

                      11. No experience. My huband uses D's Locks (hub locks) on both chairs with Spinergy LX's.

                      12. We have solid inserts on one chair and they are horribly heavy and also make for a bumpy ride. We have Schwalbe Marathon Plus Evolution on the other, and prefer them. They don't leave skid marks and have good puncture protection, but as mentioned by someone, they are also a bit heavy, but still not as bad as solids by any means. I would do the Marathons instead of solids.

                      13. No experience.

                      14. Many people use the Backrest Rigidizer Bar if push handles are mostly not needed, but then you may want to consider A2SB13 Custom Height Backrest Rigidizer Bar to place it higher up on the back frame.

                      15. For anything that you are paying out-of-pocket for, consider ordering the standard (STD) and no charge options (NCO) from your dealer and placing a second order online. We did that with almost everything on the chair and saved a lot of money, and have backups for many parts. For things like the J3 back, that are not available through TiLite, you can still order the A2BUP2 Velcro Adjustable back upholstery, and just note on the order form that you do not want it installed.
                      Last edited by elarson; 08-10-2014, 07:36 AM. Reason: added to #15
                      Partner of an incredible stroke survivor. Limitations: hemiparesis and neglect (functional paralysis and complete lack of awareness on one side). Equipment: TiLite ZRA 2 and 2GX, Spinergy ZX-1, RioMobility Firefly. Knowledge: relative newbie for high-level equipment (2012), but willing to try to help others who are new with similar limitations (definitely not a guru, but inquisitive).

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                      • #12
                        I have a TiLite Aero Z but can't answer most of your issues. However I urge you to get a copy of the order that your dealer is submitting to TiLite, as well as the CAD drawing they routinely do. Then carefully go over them several times and question/change any errors. I learned this the hard way. One of my many chairs came in with push handles that I had specifically told the dealer I didn't want. I refused the chair and waited about 3 more weeks for another chair. Now, in my dotage, I ordered a chair WITH push handles as my family members are getting old too and I was wanting to help those who pull me up stairs to visit. Never again. When putting on clothing things get caught on the handles all the time and lots of shoulder pain to get things unstuck.

                        Also, a paralyzed dealer suggested I get my TiLite depth a bit longer as 'they make them kinda short'. I did add 2 inches to seat rail depth (not seat material) and this has worked out fine. More room to grasp front seat rail for transfers, weight shifts, and hanging a pouch for cell phone.

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                        • #13
                          Don't agree to anything with any DME, and get everything in writing.
                          Don - Grad Student Emeritus
                          T3 ASIA A 26 years post injury

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            1. Do you any of you have the AERO Z? If so, overall, do you enjoy it? If you'd like to list pros and cons, that would be great. On the order form, there are two types listed. One is more expensive, and then the second specifies that it is Titanium, and it's less expensive. I don't know what the first is made out of, but according to the report from the DME, that more expensive version is the one I'm getting. Does anyone know what that is?
                            I love my AeroZ. It's well built, sturdy, and adjustable within limits. IMO Tilite makes one of the best manual chairs in the world. The quality of craftsmanship, options choices, and custom configuration ("Designs Unlimited") possibilities are superb. Many, many pros. Only three cons I can think of: some stock fasteners corrode over time, caster axles could be designed better (i.e., easier to service), and obtaining parts/accessories after the fact is pricey. But I think all chairs have these same cons.

                            That said, the best made chair in the world will not serve you well if it isn't sized correctly. Most DMEs do NOT know how to size chairs correctly. Visit a seating clinic.

                            Tilite earned their reputation making titanium framed wheelchairs. To expand their market, they began producing virtually the same designs with aluminum alloy frames because aluminum is less expensive (and much easier to fabricate) than titanium. All their Aero Brand chairs have aluminum frames (a few have titanium frame upgrades because of government/Medicare pricing rules - long, tedious story). The titanium versus aluminum-alloy discussion is a major topic in and of itself. Apples to apples, a titanium chair is slightly lighter than an aluminum chair for a whole lot more cost. Titanium chairs do last indefinitely, while aluminum chairs do fail/fatigue eventually. My AeroZ is a tweak-it chair. I hope to move up to a TR in another year - I've tweaked my AeroZ quite extensively, trying different configurations so I know what will work in a non-adjustable chair (i.e. TR).

                            Many manufacturers heavily emphasize chair weight. IMO really light chairs (<23#) are necessary only for people who lift their chairs with their shoulders. I don't, so weight is not a major issue for me. To obtain and keep a chair really lightweight means two things: 1) pay huge bucks for carbon fiber accessories that save a few ounces, and 2) be prepared to regularly strip your chair virtually bare (e.g., remove cushion, backrest, rear wheels, backpacks, bags, tools, sideguards, etc.) to obtain your light weight.

                            My ultralight AeroZ1 with aluminum seat pan, aluminum side guards, MagicWheels, and various bags stuffed with things I need (including flat-tire repair supplies) weighs over 60#. CF accessories are not worth the bucks for the few ounces they'd save. And my hand/arm tremors make disassembling my chair a royal PIA.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            2. Regarding add-ons such as handles (which I 100% do not want, but they keep trying to include them anyway, ugh), anti-tippers, and side guards, are they completely removable? Meaning, the part(s) of the chair that hold those things in place (I don't know the terms for those, sorry), can you remove those as well and have it look as if they were never on the chair in the first place?

                            I ask this because while I don't necessarily want any of those things, this chair is going to be drastically different than my current chair. The wheels are going to be moved almost six inches forward, for instance, and I wonder if the anti-tippers would be helpful until I get used to the changes. But, after that, I want no sign of them. If it comes down to it, I will have to choose aesthetics over a non-cracked skull, haha.
                            IMO get the basic extras. They'll be cheaper when you get them with your chair. They can be removed completely. They will fit properly should you want to use them (if you buy them later, you may have to jump through hoops to get the right ones). I have the integral push handles, which I replaced with straight aluminum tubing from the hardware store to hold my grocery bags handles. Today I put the push handles back on because I may need to be pushed tomorrow because of a medical procedure I'm having.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            3. Those of you who have used this particular chair, are the side guards necessary? In person, Do you think it looks better with or without them?
                            I love having side guards - I'm a bit pudgy so they allow me to have a narrower chair and still keep my hips from rubbing the tires.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            4. Have any TiLite users gotten their chain in the "Black Lava" (for other brands, it's basically a matte black) color? Does it look good in person?
                            not applicable

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            5. If you have your chair in any color other than silver, does it drive you crazy if you weren't able to have the bars of the footrest painted in that same color, as it seems is the case with TiLite? Or, am I wrong, and you can in fact have it painted as well?
                            My chair is blue, and I'm fine with the stock footrest colors. You can always paint them yourself if it bothers you.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            6. I'm going for a basically all black look, and to get all black front wheels, I will have to upgrade to the 4?
                            x1.5? LITESPEED BILLET ALUMINUM WHEEL W/SOFT ROLL TIRE. Anyone have those, and if so, thoughts?
                            The older Tilite casters suck - they're heavy, so they flutter easily at relatively low speeds. I replaced mine with FrogsLegs Aluminum Hub Soft Rolls (FLAHSR). Since then Tilite introduced their LiteSpeed design about which I know very little. FrogLegs come in many hub and tire colors including black. I do know the vast majority of wheelchair casters on the market use 608 bearings, which are ubiquitous (same as roller skates and skateboards). Tilite's LiteSpeed casters use R6 bearings, which are readily available but not ubiquitous like 608s.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            7. This is one I'm expecting to be rejected by my insurance, but for rear wheels, I really would like the SPINERGY LX. Do any of you have either of them, and if so, do you enjoy them? Were they worth the extra money?

                            Also, and particularly if you have a black chair, does that fact that the hub is silver bother you at all? Or, are you able to get the hub colored the same as the spokes? I'm thinking that even if the hub has to be silver, it may look kind of nice against the black.
                            I love my MagicWheels. I have no experience with fancy spoke wheels. Before MWs, I used Spinergy wire wheels.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            8. I also enjoy the TWIN-STAR EXCHANGE wheels (though I am leaning toward the LX's), and those would fit the all-black motif pretty well, so, do any of you have those? Do you enjoy them? Were they worth the extra money?
                            NA

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            9. Given that I don't need much support, they want to put a J3 BACKREST on it. Are you comfortable with yours? Does it look presentable on the chair, from all angles?
                            I like my Jay3. It's the Lower Thoracic 16x9.5" with quick release hardware, and it's relatively heavy (>3#). For me a solid back works much better than fabric back upholstery. I have good trunk control. That said, choosing an appropriate backrest can be exceptionally subjective. Again I recommend a seating clinic.

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                            10. Along with the support statement, the MPT/APT suggested that my cushion is more of an issue of comfort, and suggested the VARILITE ZOID refillable cushion. Does it work well for you?
                            Cushion selection can be critical. I have sensation and love my Comfort Company Adjuster. I can sit comfortably for many hours.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            11. SCISSOR LOCKS, yay or nay? Keep in mind I have no issues with my hands/arms.
                            My first choice is hub locks (D's Locks or SureLocks). My distant second choice is composite scissor locks. I do not like aluminum scissor locks.

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                            12. TIRES. These I know next to nothing about. The ones on the chair I tried out were thin and had very little tread, and I was told they were solid. Given the all black look I'm going for, I would like these to be black as well. I'm told I'm getting 24'' wheels. I don't see an option for colors on the order form, so the ones that come in black (and are solid and come in 24'' with minimal tread) are the HERRINGBONE TREAD. How are they? Do you know of others? While it probably doesn't need saying, I plan on getting black pushrims as well.
                            My chair came with solid tires. They skidded horribly, and their rough sidewalls tore up my hands. Basd on CCC reviews, I switched to Schwalbe Marathon Plus Evolutions (MPE), and have been very happy. They're great all-season, most-terrain tires. Most of my use is outside.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            13. I don't know that this will matter much, but I want the solid panel foot rest. Is that the FLAT ABS COVER? Any cons to it?
                            NA (I have the flip-back footrest.)

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                            14. In lieu of the handles, as I mentioned earlier, I would like the bar that goes across the back of the chair. Is that called the Rigidizer Bar? Have any of you had any problems when being helped up a step with this?
                            Rigidizer bar, Towel Bar . . depending on the manufacturer. Personally I'd be very leery of lifting an occupied chair by this bar or the push handles on a fold down backrest. On a welded backrest it would be okay. I have no personal experience though.

                            Originally posted by User Name View Post
                            15. Any random bits of info you'd like to share, or wish you had known going into your last ordering process? . . .
                            I prefer a solid seat pan - very stable. I am good with tools (and have many) so my mods to my AeroZ are extensive and, in some cases, uncommon: I extended the trails of my forks to eliminate flutter. I fashioned and installed wood wedges beneath my solid aluminum seat pan (which I bent accordingly) to provide ergo seating and raise my FSH. I adapted my MagicWheels to use hub locks. Mentioned earlier, I have straight aluminum posts to swap with my push handles. . . .

                            Thanks for your questions. Lots of fantastic experiences reside here on CCC.
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                            I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

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                              Also, if you want a quality chair with serious configurability far beyond anything else on the market, consider ICONWheelchairs.com. Or if you have special needs beyond what anyone else can do, consider MikeBoxDesigns.com. Both make high quality chairs.
                              Chas
                              TiLite TR3
                              Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                              I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

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