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    #16
    Won't put on rear 559's til later. The larger front tire profile should help with the difference. I'm not sure what I'll run, could be even a Marathon Plus w/c tire. The main need is high pressure, thicker sidewall and better choice in typr of tire. With 650c the only tire available that will fit is a thin walled racing tire.

    I have a request in to Wheelbuilder.com for a quote and will also see what my bike shop would charge. Last wheel was around 350.00 if I go with a Shimano Deore hub. WHich may be okay since I'm not planning on racing.

    Thanks, John, I think that's teh same one I have so may just have to change to a better brake pad.

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      #17
      My Lasher has both cable and hydro, the cable is for a parking brake/ emer brake and the hydro is a Avid Code 4. The Avid is awesome but not without needing some love, it's had to be bled shortly after I got the bike and then the Master Cyl. started leaking and had to be replaced. Avid picked up the part but not the labor. It's actually an interesting setup as they both share the same disc. When I was using the cable brake while the hydro was down it was plenty powerful.

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        #18
        One of the rears was flat when I went to get on today. No spare tube for the first time that I can remember. Went and bought a can of sealer and the bike shop straightened out my front wheel while I waited. Got home, put the hose of the sealer over the valvee and of course sprayed it every where. THought it was fixed but 7 miles out, it was 1/2 flat. GRRR.

        Spoke with my bikeshop and am getting a quote for a 559 with a good 559 rim, d/b stainless spokes and a medium priced hub. Rears trustfully will be with same rim, Nimble Spider hubs with d/b spokes.

        My workers Comp. paid for the bike so I'm sure they'll cover the cost of the re-build. It's time for new cables etc. after the thousands of miles I've put on it in the last four years.
        Last edited by Patrick Madsen; 9 Sep 2012, 8:15 PM.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
          Won't put on rear 559's til later. The larger front tire profile should help with the difference. I'm not sure what I'll run, could be even a Marathon Plus w/c tire. The main need is high pressure, thicker sidewall and better choice in typr of tire. With 650c the only tire available that will fit is a thin walled racing tire.

          I have a request in to Wheelbuilder.com for a quote and will also see what my bike shop would charge. Last wheel was around 350.00 if I go with a Shimano Deore hub. WHich may be okay since I'm not planning on racing.

          Thanks, John, I think that's teh same one I have so may just have to change to a better brake pad.
          what size rotor are you using
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            #20
            Hey John, guess what. I took my wheel off today, got it straightened went for a ride and couldn't shif to the lower 2 cogs like you emailed me earlier about. Didn't do anything different. Looking at the brake it looks like the wheel may have been out further or something. Did you ever get if figured out? Haven't checked it out but man what else could go wrong today with the bike.

            There's a 160 rotor on it now but will upgrade to a 185 when I change over. Did you order your Sugino cables from the net or your bikeshop?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
              Hey John, guess what. I took my wheel off today, got it straightened went for a ride and couldn't shif to the lower 2 cogs like you emailed me earlier about. Didn't do anything different. Looking at the brake it looks like the wheel may have been out further or something. Did you ever get if figured out? Haven't checked it out but man what else could go wrong today with the bike.

              There's a 160 rotor on it now but will upgrade to a 185 when I change over. Did you order your Sugino cables from the net or your bikeshop?
              nope, i havent got mine straight. i have it shifting smooth up but weont come down off big ring, i have to double shift to get down. i have the usaf marathon saturday, so i stopped messing with it, was afraid i'll brake something. scott thinks its because i cant get derailluer to 2mm of the outer ring. im around 5-7 mm. i'll tear completely down next week.
              i dont have sugino, i cant even find them. do u have a link?
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                #22
                I may have been mistaken, I thought yo u used Sugino cables. What brand are you using?

                Called my Workers Comp. They'll re-imburse me for the rebuild. Good news. Good luck at the USAF. Looking forward to hear how you did.

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                  #23
                  Looking at rear bolt on hubs. I can only find Nimble, American Classic and Phil Woods. May go with AMerican Classic or Nimble.

                  Any others out there?

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                    #24
                    pat, i think i fixed it. i added 2 links and the dam thing is shifting now.
                    i have the am classics and corimas both bolt on, i thought all were bolt on.
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                      #25
                      I am getting closer to ordering the build. I don't want to go with American Classic hubs as they only come in a 24 spoke capability. I want 28 because of the added weight of the batteries for the powerpod.

                      So will be going with a Mavic 717 559 rim with double butted stainless steel spokes with Phil Wood hubs.

                      Ther are two types of hubs, high flange and standard. I've been thinking hi flange as it may make the wheel a bit stiffer.

                      Any comments would be appreciated.


                      For the front wheel am looking at a Mavic 717 32 spoke rim and still undecided for a hub. I looked at the Hope Evo2 pro but was around 300.00. I'm not racing so don't need a hub like that.
                      The Shimano deore hub F/r uses is around 40.00. I'd like to spend around 120 or so.

                      I thought it might have been chain length John but you had ridden the bike before with no changer problems. You're not riding with the chain in the large chainring and large cog are you or what they call "cross chaining". I have mine set so I can't cross chain.

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                        #26
                        Ordered the wheels as above but went with an XT front hub rather than a 300 dollar one.

                        Looking at tires now something durable. Probably a Schwalbe 420. Would like to find something in the 120 psi range. Suggestions

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                          Ordered the wheels as above but went with an XT front hub rather than a 300 dollar one.

                          Looking at tires now something durable. Probably a Schwalbe 420. Would like to find something in the 120 psi range. Suggestions
                          In 1.35" wide this durano will be ok too, i think will give a better ride than the green marathon you have said.
                          Assuming your rides are in paviments roads.
                          Last edited by totoL1; 15 Sep 2012, 5:50 AM.

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                            #28
                            Thanks T. Says they only go up to 95 psi. Would have liked a bit more psi. Perhaps I'm just too used to the higher pressue.

                            I used wheelchair tires ,Chengs I think, when I went to 540's years ago. I thought the Marathon w/c tires went up more than 95psi.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                              Thanks T. Says they only go up to 95 psi. Would have liked a bit more psi. Perhaps I'm just too used to the higher pressue.

                              I used wheelchair tires ,Chengs I think, when I went to 540's years ago. I thought the Marathon w/c tires went up more than 95psi.
                              They two go up to 95psi,The HS420 looks more speedy, probably because have less puncture protection and less weight.
                              Well if you want more pressure go for a right run for example.

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                                #30
                                I think I'm going with the Marathon Plus because they are basically bullet proof. I'm not worried about weight and rolling resistance anymore because I use juice (powerpod) now.

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