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  • #16
    Originally posted by chasmengr View Post
    SCI_OTR is the pro here. Heed his advice.

    Don't be in a hurry to order a chair. It's a long term investment, and takes multiple passes at measurements to fine tune them before you order.

    I spent many years in construction (measuring, cutting, assembling) and then (after graduating from college) spent many more years as a consulting engineer (preparing documents from which others measured, cut, assembled). I forget sometimes how many subtleties go in to making something fit and work properly because they come so easy for me. My responses are not casual, but very thought out and cautiously offered. Please don't jump ahead, and presume I'm done sizing before I absolutely have finished. I have lots more questions.

    That said . . .

    At 5'7" and 190#, your seat width (Ga=19) does seem wide. I'm 5'8" and 205, and my seat is plenty wide at 17; I'm considering getting 16 on my next chair. Are you sure those measurements are 'you' and not what the tech thought you needed.? Old-school techs add 2" to your actual width cuz that's what they were taught, but an added 2" is detrimental. But, if that's you, then it's fine.

    After examining your measurements again, I noticed we are very differently proportioned although about the same height. My experience includes only specifying my own chair, which I did by measuring myself. I have short legs and a long torso; you have long legs and a short torso. MY C+D=33; my A=35 for a height of 68". Your C+D=37; A=29.5 for a height of 66.5". I wear a 32-33" dress sleeve. Not knowing your arm length, I have no clue what your RSH should be unless you provide some more measurements.
    I understand it may take some time to get the right measurements but my current chair is falling apart. In terms of arm length, My arm length is pretty long. I wear 32" dress shirts as well just so the cuff isnt going up my wrist. The tech who took these measurements was looking to fit me in a Q7 (which is said I didnt want after using the demo).

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    • #17
      I am still eager to help you pick a chair . . .

      Please don't order one yet.

      We left off needing more info about your arm length, and confirming your hip width. If you'll provide those, I will continue if you wish.
      Chas
      TiLite TR3
      Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
      I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

      "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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      • #18
        Oh good. You responded. Let me figure a bit.
        Chas
        TiLite TR3
        Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
        I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

        "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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        UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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        • #19
          Originally posted by chasmengr View Post
          After even further inspection of your measurements, I am curious.

          Comparing E=20 and F=18, are your upper arms actually only 1" thick? [(20-18)/2]. Maybe the techs measure much differently than I am expecting. That would add significant reinforcement to SCI_OTR's word of caution about exclusively using anthropomorphic measurements to size a chair.

          One thing I learned in the construction field is, if one person is measuring and another is cutting, the two people must be thinking exactly the same or things won't fit. I had forgotten that - I assumed the tech who took your measurements took them the same way I would - that's a poor assumption, and gives even more support to SCI_OTR's caution (not to mention the impetus for an adjustable chair).
          I got these measurements done at a wheelchair distributor in my area. There arent too many that are willing to deal with me because im paying out of pocket. These are the only measurements he took and he was ready to place an order for a chair if i signed off on it...where else should I go to get a second opinion?

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          • #20
            OH man,99% of the DME's don't know squat about measuring out a chair. Seems like this guy is one of them. A 5'7" person should in no way use an 18 1/2 " length seat. The only way you got away with such a long seat is because of the 70o front end.

            Holy moly, I'm glad you have Chas and SCI here. Being a T/12 you want the smallest imprint of a chair as possible. The reason you can't move the old one is because it is soooo long and unwieldly.

            Are you an active person or more sedentary. Makes a difference on how a chair is measured and setup.

            You'll notice a big big difference with a chair that is setup for a T/12 5'7" person over the one you have now. Let's get it right, won't take long. Do you want a hot rod or a cruiser?

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            • #21
              My wife (a seamstress) and I took my measurements, then I presented them to the DME tech who confirmed them. Do you have someone to help who has measuring experience? A tailor could provide a superb double check if you provide the chart to him/her.
              Chas
              TiLite TR3
              Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
              I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

              "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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              UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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              • #22
                I mentioned his screwy measurements at the beginning of this thread. they seemed quite odd.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
                  OH man,99% of the DME's don't know squat about measuring out a chair. Seems like this guy is one of them. A 5'7" person should in no way use an 18 1/2 " length seat. The only way you got away with such a long seat is because of the 70o front end.

                  Holy moly, I'm glad you have Chas and SCI here. Being a T/12 you want the smallest imprint of a chair as possible. The reason you can't move the old one is because it is soooo long and unwieldly.

                  Are you an active person or more sedentary. Makes a difference on how a chair is measured and setup.

                  You'll notice a big big difference with a chair that is setup for a T/12 5'7" person over the one you have now. Let's get it right, won't take long. Do you want a hot rod or a cruiser?
                  Very true, I'm glad I posted here before signing off on anything. I am a very active person and I will need a chair that can take a beating. I live in an urban environment so I have to deal with uneven pavement and alot of grass/muddy areas. The chair I have now is pretty hard to navigate around the office since it barely fits through the doors.

                  I also work out frequently and I do quite a bit of lifting in the chair so it has to support me + the weight im lifting (around 50 extra pounds max)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by chasmengr View Post
                    My wife (a seamstress) and I took my measurements, then I presented them to the DME tech who confirmed them. Do you have someone to help who has measuring experience? A tailor could provide a superb double check if you provide the chart to him/her.
                    I could find a tailor in the area that could help out. What exactly should I be asking them to measure?

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                    • #25
                      I must take a break for tonight. See you tomorrow.

                      We are making good progress
                      Chas
                      TiLite TR3
                      Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                      I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

                      "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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                      UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Exumer View Post
                        I could find a tailor in the area that could help out. What exactly should I be asking them to measure?

                        Take along the body measurement chart, and tell him you need just straight measurements, not measurements for clothes which allow for extra material around the curves of your body.
                        Chas
                        TiLite TR3
                        Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                        I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

                        "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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                        UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by jschism View Post
                          I mentioned his screwy measurements at the beginning of this thread. they seemed quite odd.
                          yep, you did. It just took a bit longer for me to catch on
                          Chas
                          TiLite TR3
                          Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                          I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

                          "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
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                          UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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                          • #28
                            Oh also, H is from your seat to the bottom of your shoulder blade, and also get the vertical measurement from the top of your shoulder to the tip of your middle finger.
                            Chas
                            TiLite TR3
                            Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                            I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

                            "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
                            <
                            UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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                            • #29
                              You guys are measuring the wrong thing!

                              Let's start with seat width. You know from your specs that your 2HP is 18" wide. Does it fit?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SCI_OTR View Post
                                You guys are measuring the wrong thing!

                                Let's start with seat width. You know from your specs that your 2HP is 18" wide. Does it fit?
                                Its too wide, I'd like to bring it in at least 2 inches. I think the width and length are backwards..I bought a Jay 2 recently that is 20 width and 18 length and it fits the chair fine.
                                Last edited by Exumer; 07-17-2012, 10:04 PM.

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