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    many saw it with me in it. heres my force r naked. this bike is laid out for a high quad to race.
    you just cant be a stereotypical lazy quad. put in the hours training and get out there and race.
    this has-
    rotor q ring 44-34-22
    bike on custom spider
    bike on reverse brake. flip on/off to back crank up big ass hills
    shimano xtr paddle shifters
    quad grips.com grips. best grip ever for no hand function
    long wheelbase force r
    Bike-on.com rep
    John@bike-on.com
    c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
    sponsored handcycle racer

    #2
    Beautiful handcycle Fuentejps! Thanks for sharing the details especially the quad modifications. I am a C6 quad too and you are an inspiration for me to take up handcycling. I am in the process of putting together the final details of getting one. Can you share more of a description of how each of these modifications benefit you as a quad?

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      #3
      Originally posted by JMS View Post
      Beautiful handcycle Fuentejps! Thanks for sharing the details especially the quad modifications. I am a C6 quad too and you are an inspiration for me to take up handcycling. I am in the process of putting together the final details of getting one. Can you share more of a description of how each of these modifications benefit you as a quad?
      all of the mods let you shift both your 9x and 3x without removing your hands from the grips. you just push your hand forward and pull back to shift. its that easy. the bike on brake gives you stopping power without reaching for a brake. that can be dangerous. i found that out last season when i smashed into a underpass wal going 20mph, ground the skin off my arm and hand, ouch.
      the qrings and 12-36 cassette let me get up any hill ive hit. still need to wrachet occasionally but i always get up the hill.

      fyi- the force r is the best bike for a high quad. i had a force then swiutched to this and was amazed at the difference. equipment for us is as important as training.
      work with scott at bikeon.
      Bike-on.com rep
      John@bike-on.com
      c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
      sponsored handcycle racer

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        #4
        I see you have a CAF sticker on the rear of the frame. Are they funding your equipment? I know Achilles International will purchase equipment for the wounded veterans that they sponsor (which goes through Bike-On). Most of the NYC-area guys I know who compete are partial to CAF, but I'm not familiar with the deets necessary to get sponsorship and funding. Force Rs don't come cheap, so I'm sure it would be helpful for people to know how they might get financial assistance.
        stephen@bike-on.com

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          #5
          Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
          I see you have a CAF sticker on the rear of the frame. Are they funding your equipment? I know Achilles International will purchase equipment for the wounded veterans that they sponsor (which goes through Bike-On). Most of the NYC-area guys I know who compete are partial to CAF, but I'm not familiar with the deets necessary to get sponsorship and funding. Force Rs don't come cheap, so I'm sure it would be helpful for people to know how they might get financial assistance.
          caf sponsored this season, yes. they paid for my wheels. the corima race wheels. this bike is expensive. with both sets of wheels[race and training] ive got about 13k in it. im well sponsored now both product and some cash.
          Bike-on.com rep
          John@bike-on.com
          c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
          sponsored handcycle racer

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            #6
            Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
            caf sponsored this season, yes. they paid for my wheels. the corima race wheels. this bike is expensive. with both sets of wheels[race and training] ive got about 13k in it. im well sponsored now both product and some cash.
            So CAF paid for everything? Bike, wheels, mods, . . . travel costs? I think it would be helpful to others who are interested in getting funding for adaptive equipment if you would share the process involved in making the request? -- e.g., who did you contact? what were the terms? how long did it take? etc.

            From all accounts CAF is a fantastic organization.
            stephen@bike-on.com

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              #7
              Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
              So CAF paid for everything? Bike, wheels, mods, . . . travel costs? I think it would be helpful to others who are interested in getting funding for adaptive equipment if you would share the process involved in making the request? -- e.g., who did you contact? what were the terms? how long did it take? etc.

              From all accounts CAF is a fantastic organization.
              all this information is available on the CAF website

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                #8
                Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
                So CAF paid for everything? Bike, wheels, mods, . . . travel costs? I think it would be helpful to others who are interested in getting funding for adaptive equipment if you would share the process involved in making the request? -- e.g., who did you contact? what were the terms? how long did it take? etc.

                From all accounts CAF is a fantastic organization.
                .C a f is a great organization they just paid for the wheels. Not being a dick but sponsorship and grants are very competitive so ppl need to figure those out solo.
                Last edited by fuentejps; 8 Jul 2012, 12:52 PM.
                Bike-on.com rep
                John@bike-on.com
                c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
                sponsored handcycle racer

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                  #9
                  killer looking bike



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                    #10
                    Very cool bike fuentejps.
                    I`m training hard now too, i`m going to try next year to be in the podium of the spanish championship race.

                    Do yo know or somebody else in what would influence the lenght of the crankset arms?
                    I have seen that crankset arms have different lengths, usually you can choice between 170mm or 175mm, and sometimes some brands have 165mm and 180mm too, so in what would influence their lengths in our rides?

                    Q rims really worth?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
                      Q rims really worth?
                      I have q-rotors on my 2 larger crank gears, makes a big difference in having constant pressure for a full turn. With a normal round gear I find it is more like a push/pull stroke because of the dead spots.
                      from what i've read, crank length seems more of a preference and rideing conditions, using a shorter crank arm you can maintain faster cadence easier and use less strength/abuse on shoulders, especially on hills. being a lower level injury, you can more easily power through and I have tried 2 lengths and don't see much difference on flats. another reason is to use short crank arms to keep your elbow bent more so one isn't reaching so far when pedaling. I imagine on a force r crank lengths make more of a difference than when sitting more upright
                      Last edited by jschism; 8 Jul 2012, 4:32 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
                        Very cool bike fuentejps.
                        I`m training hard now too, i`m going to try next year to be in the podium of the spanish championship race.

                        Do yo know or somebody else in what would influence the lenght of the crankset arms?
                        I have seen that crankset arms have different lengths, usually you can choice between 170mm or 175mm, and sometimes some brands have 165mm and 180mm too, so in what would influence their lengths in our rides?

                        Q rims really worth?
                        thx toto. yes q rings are worth every pennie, you'll never go back. i recommend all 3. bike-on makes a custom spider in either 104/64 bcd or 110/64 bcd...... i went from 190mm arms to 175mm then 165mm. i prefer the shorter 165mm, as js pointed out it keeds cadence higher, easier to climb and easier on shoulders.
                        great to hear your training hard, nothing like having goals then crushing them.
                        Bike-on.com rep
                        John@bike-on.com
                        c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
                        sponsored handcycle racer

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                          #13
                          ok, thank guys.

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                            #14
                            JS is right on. If I remember, there were basically two styles of riders; powering thru the stroke or spinners. Bigger (slow Twitch) guys are more prone to powering thru the stroke while smaller bodied (fast twitch) and quads go more for cadence. John went from a 190 power cranklength to more of a spinners length; 165mm.

                            With you being such a low injury and smaller stature; other than double amps, you are the perfect wheeling machine so perhaps a length in the middle will give you power and cadence. 175's or 170's. You look strong so either would be great. If there are a lot of hills where you train; 170's. Flat course; 175's. Does your bike have vertical adjustment for crank height?

                            The Q rings make a big difference. They'll save your shoulders and allow you to ride that many more years; I love 'em. They're made in Spain so may be a big plus for sponsorship or at least a discount.

                            John, you did the work did, made the changes and it shows. What a difference from your first bike. Congrats buddy.
                            Last edited by Patrick Madsen; 8 Jul 2012, 6:51 PM.

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                              #15
                              Thanks Jschism, Fuentejps, and Patrick for the explanations and recommendation of the q-rotors and the length of the crankset arms for a quad

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