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    The new Oracing XTR

    Hi guys.

    I was this week in Oracing factory with the new desing of the Oracing Xtreme Box, a lot of job with the engineer doing the plans of my concept, do something different in a full welded frame is not easy, some headaches have gave me triying to do something better than the xtreme box, but finally i did it, the best full welded wheelchair of the world, of course are lot of different tastes, and maybe you don`t like it, but something is sure is the best box frame never have been made.
    Sorry for the titanium lovers, well is the best aluminium wheelchair never have been made.

    And when i say the best i`m not referring the lighest, because as more light more weak will be, so i wanted to do something better than the xtreme box, but without adding weight.

    Seven types (two ovals) of different tubes are in the chair, you will see it soon, now i have to sand it well all the frame and give an anodized without colour,i`m just going to leave the frame with the aluminium colour because is better for save the chair of scrathes and i save around 100 grames in paint

    I have to do CF for seat, sideguards, forks, casters, wheels, uphostery, etc.

    When i have the spanish review ready i will post it, i will post probably a few pics of the frame before.

    #2
    I have the name for your newest creation:
    Last edited by stephen212; 21 Jun 2012, 4:45 PM.
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      #3
      Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
      . . .the best aluminium wheelchair never have been made.
      Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
      I have the name for your newest creation:
      Love the pic

      Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
      . . . i save around 100 grames in paint
      I've never thought of saving weight that way . . . LOL
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        #4
        PICS!!! I wanna see this badboy taking shape!
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          #5
          Originally posted by SuprSi View Post
          PICS!!! I wanna see this badboy taking shape!
          Sorry but i can`t at the moment, i just have a frame that i will be all day sanding it and i have to do cf and assembly everything.

          I forgot to told to the engineer to sent to my email all the 3D cad drawings, and now all Oracing team are in Germany in Schimicking factory because they are going to work togother, are parthers now.
          So until monday i will not have the cads, i will post the cads once i`ve got them.

          At the moment i`m just going to show you this
          Chair have 5 diferent round tubes, incluide the fork stem barrel.
          1 oval tube, that for you can make an idea is the same oval tube that Tooley have in his rugby chair, that tube is indistrutible, i will show you a pic with a car on the tube.
          And 1 elliptical tube that is the one showed in this pic.

          I remember one time when Jeff Adams told, all wheelchairs are the same, all cantilever frame just look all the same, just two bend L tubes, 4 wheels, for someone who dosen`t understand about wheelchairs all are the same, and he was true, well look the same but aren`t, the difference are in the quality.
          He told: in my wheelchair we even don`t need to put our name, because everybody who see it will now is an Icon, because there is nothing similar in the market, and i liked that, something different.
          That was me starting thinking in do something different, and i start with the xtreme box, that wasn`t much really different than others box frames, just a bit, but this time i get it.
          Well, this full welded chair is the "same than their Icon or Marvel", nothing similar in the market, a new concept of box frame that when you see it, you will think: that`s an Oracing XTR, you will understand it when you will see the whole frame.
          But for people that like superminimalist wheelchairs just with two tubes and a camber tube stay with cantilevers, because this wheelchair is not for normal people, this chair have my personality, so...., stay away from it, could bite you

          I will post the CADs soon.
          Last edited by totoL1; 22 Jun 2012, 4:09 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
            Sorry but i can`t at the moment, i just have a frame that i will be all day sanding it and i have to do cf and assembly everything.

            I forgot to told to the engineer to sent to my email all the 3D cad drawings, and now all Oracing team are in Germany in Schimicking factory because they are going to work togother, are parthers now.
            So until monday i will not have the cads, i will post the cads once i`ve got them.

            At the moment i`m just going to show you this
            Chair have 5 diferent round tubes, incluide the fork stem barrel.
            1 oval tube, that for you can make an idea is the same oval tube that Tooley have in his rugby chair, that tube is indistrutible, i will show you a pic with a car on the tube.
            And 1 elliptical tube that is the one showed in this pic.

            I remember one time when Jeff Adams told, all wheelchairs are the same, all cantilever frame just look all the same, just two bend L tubes, 4 wheels, for someone who dosen`t understand about wheelchairs all are the same, and he was true, well look the same but aren`t, the difference are in the quality.
            He told: in my wheelchair we even don`t need to put our name, because everybody who see it will now is an Icon, because there is nothing similar in the market, and i liked that, something different.
            That was me starting thinking in do something different, and i start with the xtreme box, that wasn`t much really different than others box frames, just a bit, but this time i get it.
            Well, this full welded chair is the "same than their Icon or Marvel", nothing similar in the market, a new concept of box frame that when you see it, you will think: that`s an Oracing XTR, you will understand it when you will see the whole frame.
            But for people that like superminimalist wheelchairs just with two tubes and a camber tube stay with cantilevers, because this wheelchair is not for normal people, this chair have my personality, so...., stay away from it, could bite you

            I will post the CADs soon.
            I want more picsssssssssssss
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              #7
              This thread is worthless without pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                #8
                That's a pretty weld. Are you grinding those smooth or leaving as is?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DaleB View Post
                  This thread is worthless without pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Hey!!!, Grommet was speaking about his Icon without pics for monthes, and you didn`t tell him nothing so why i can`t do the same for just a few days, i promise you i will keep mine.

                  Anyway i don`t have good pics, i just have a frame and a lot of pieces in my garage, the chair is not assembly, tomorrow i will start with the cf seat and sideguards, this time i`m not going to put any special options about adapting wheels, this time i want the protagonist is the frame, so it dosen`t need ....

                  I`m just going to put std forks, softroll casters and i was going for 5" and they didn`t have in stock black aluminium hub, so i will go with the plastic version and i will buy the aluminium in a future, Spinergys spox sport and of course cf because i made it.

                  Because is for you i will post a pic, but don`t ask me for more lol, i hope you like it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lazierdog View Post
                    That's a pretty weld. Are you grinding those smooth or leaving as is?
                    Yes, i have gave to the frame with steel wool for leave it a bit smoother, but i`m not going to polish it.
                    Last edited by totoL1; 22 Jun 2012, 4:21 PM.

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                      #11
                      The frame ready to go for anodize, i love this fucking desing, probably is because it`s mine , it`s stronger, much cooler imo and need less room than a box frame as you can see in pics.

                      Hey guys!! i give you this pics in exclusive before any review, i hope some day you pay me for this lol.

                      Here they go!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
                        The frame ready to go for anodize, i love this fucking desing, probably is because it`s mine , it`s stronger, much cooler imo and need less room than a box frame as you can see in pics.

                        Hey guys!! i give you this pics in exclusive before any review, i hope some day you pay me for this lol.

                        Here they go!!
                        Good design, saving space, yet is a box wheelchair.

                        Your new backrest seems to be very much higher than the old one.

                        The half box idea quite similar to Mikebox.

                        Can you explain the purpose of difference choice of tube at different parts?


                        Last edited by sowseng; 23 Jun 2012, 6:33 AM.
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                          #13
                          Very nice, totol1!

                          Quite a good looking frame.

                          Your full review is eagerly anticipated!

                          Thanks for sharing.
                          "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

                          "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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                            #14
                            Nice frame Toto !!!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sowseng View Post
                              Good design, saving space, yet is a box wheelchair.

                              Your new backrest seems to be very much higher than the old one.

                              The half box idea quite similar to Mikebox.

                              Can you explain the purpose of difference choice of tube at different parts?

                              Of course is a box frame, but need less room than normal box frames because the lower tubes.
                              The backrest is an ich higher. 30cm.
                              Similar to the mikebox? yes in the colour.
                              Different parts dosen`t have same stress, and for control the weight that i add with the oval crossbar tube.
                              Last edited by totoL1; 23 Jun 2012, 10:25 AM.

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