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  • Driving, manual chair, Bakk Flip and Lokk Up

    Has anyone seen or used this equipment to drive from a manual chair?

    Bakk Flip and Lokk Up:
    http://www.bakkflip.com/
    http://youtu.be/SZqorEAbJ00

    It looks really great, and I am much more comfortable using a manual chair (zr) with e-motion wheels. I am hoping to go through driver training in the summer at Craig Hospital, almost 13 years post injury (c4-5), can't self-transfer. I have a Toyota Sienna Braun Rampvan.

    What am I missing? does anything stand out as problematic?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Why not just go with an EZ LOCK system? Though no head, neck and back protection like the Bakk Flip, EZ LOCK has been around for a while and is pretty much bullet proof except for the 12lbs. of metal bracket bolted to my wheelchair.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by smokey View Post
      Though no head, neck and back protection ....
      I could not tell if you were kidding or not. It seems like the protection is the most important part. Are you driving from a manual chair with an EZ lock? A ZR? If so, would you be willing to upload a photo of your setup?

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      • #4
        I'm going to look into that Bakk Flip!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Scorpion View Post
          I'm going to look into that Bakk Flip!
          Post the price you get quoted and I will do the same.
          Life's perceived journey in this PMR is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy **** what a VR ride!"
          Pete C6/'97

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          • #6
            I currently use the EZ lock system on my manual chair. This looks a lot safer. Let us know any info you guys find out. (cost, vehicles, chairs)

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            • #7
              Looks like a great system! Too bad I already spent a fortune on a 6 way seat base...
              Don - Grad Student Emeritus
              T3 ASIA A 26 years post injury

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              • #8
                The EZ lock is forbidden here now and I have to change it in my car. But here it is forbidden to drive from the manuell too so different countries, different rules
                TH 12, 43 years post

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                • #9
                  Wrongdog, not kidding. I am serious. I do drive from my manual chair. I don't know if I can upload a pic of me using the EZ LOCK but you can probably see it on YouTube or the EZ LOCK website. Certainly I would like some support in back of me like a headrest but I've been using the EZ LOCK system for about 7 years without any problems. I'm not saying it can't be improved or it's the safest lockdown system out there. It has been functional and trouble free for me that's all.

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                  • #10
                    I just saw this thread. My son has the Black Flip and uses the EZ Lock system. The Back Flip is a great idea, but needs a bit more work on the design. My son is in and out of his van a lot, the Back Flip works 90% of the time, but when its not working the manual release is way down at the bottom and cannot be reached by the driver. Not cool!!!! Sooo, many times he does not use it because he's afraid he may get stuck.

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                    • #11
                      I was recently quoted [2 weeks ago] $6,000 for both the Bakk flip and Lokk up. But it was only an estimate.

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                      • #12
                        bakk flip/ lokk up

                        I've been trying to learn more about this system.
                        I'm wondering, where did you get the estimate?
                        one of my local shops was close to twice that for one part, the lokk up.
                        I'm thinking I should look else where.
                        6grand is a lot more affordable.
                        Was it for both the lokk up and bakk flip?

                        For the EZ lock types, me, I hate that bar that gathers dog and baby toys and socks and carpets and all and what not. The lokk up just seems so much cleaner. I use a manual chair and as I age I'm finding it increasingly difficuklt to transfer, so, driving from the chair seems like a more reasonable alternative. Just need to be able to put it together.
                        The bakk flip seems like it might provide the support for poor trunk balance and the lokk up, well, no drag bar.

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                        • #13
                          Lokk Up

                          It looks like a great system, I was quoted on a guesstimate of $3.800 for just the Lokk Up, but can't get an answer if it will work with a TiLite ZRA.

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                          • #14
                            I'm not sure on the hook ups either but the 3800 is quite a bit less than i was quoted.
                            For both Bakk Flip/ Lokk up I was given a price of about $11,000, with shipping costs unkown. the installer got the numbers from the web site. unfortunately their attempts to contact the manufacturer have so far been unsuccessful.

                            That's like twice and a bit over the EZLock but in my mind it'd be worth it.
                            The Bakk Flip just seems like a good idea, i use my vans seat's back a lot when i drive, i'm thinking with just a wheelchair back i'll have issues now and again.

                            on that though, from what i hear the manufacturer is a real pain to work with and the system has problems that can be almost impossible to get fixed. poor customer support, at least in North America.

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                            • #15
                              Price quote from United Access:
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                              Bakk Flip Securement System $3,995
                              Lokk Up Securement System $2,495
                              Control Unit Lokkup/Bakkflip $958
                              Wheelchair Bracket $795
                              $8243

                              Labor [Installation of equipment + custom fitting with customer] = approx $840
                              Freight Charge
                              Taxes
                              Last edited by peegy p; 02-24-2013, 12:37 PM.

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