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  • Installing D's Locks

    Hey,
    Anyone ever installed D's on thier chair? How do they attach to the hub or axle? Do they come with thier own axles? I am in the process of getting a new chair, TiLite Tr, and I would like to put a set of D's on it. I am looking at puting titanium axles on it, but if D's come with a different axle set up I wont pay for the titanium axles. I have had my Quickie GP for about 15 years now and I have replaced everything but the frame many times.

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    D's come with two components that are specific to your chair:
    1. axle adapter - this is a ring that is snugged around the end of your existing axle
    2. locking ring - this is a flat plate with multiple holes in it that attaches to your wheel hub

    And components that are common to all D's installations:
    1. pistons that extend into a hole in the locking ring
    2. cable/lever that operates both pistons and can be mounted anywhere on the chair

    They do not come with their own axles.

    Here are some pictures of D's on my chair, a Top End Terminator Titanium: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brokenc...7600381866495/
    Last edited by Katja; 01-14-2012, 04:42 PM.

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    • #3
      Katja,
      Thanks for the information and pics. Most helpful.

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      • #4
        The picture on the website is actually quite good; it's just hard to visualize them until you've seen them, if you know what I mean: http://www.dslocks.net/design.htm

        Also, I think D's are the greatest thing since paper napkins...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jim of socal View Post
          Hey,
          Anyone ever installed D's on thier chair? How do they attach to the hub or axle? Do they come with thier own axles? I am in the process of getting a new chair, TiLite Tr, and I would like to put a set of D's on it. I am looking at puting titanium axles on it, but if D's come with a different axle set up I wont pay for the titanium axles. I have had my Quickie GP for about 15 years now and I have replaced everything but the frame many times.
          I have the Surelock locking hub on my ZR2 (as I did on my ZR1) and they fabricated an OEM-style camber clamp that replaces the original. Not sure if they offer something similar for the TR, but if it were me I'd ask.
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          stephen@bike-on.com

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
            I have the Surelock locking hub on my ZR2 (as I did on my ZR1) and they fabricated an OEM-style camber clamp that replaces the original. Not sure if they offer something similar for the TR, but if it were me I'd ask.

            I love that bracket. My next chair may well be a TiLite just so I can use Surelocks with that adapter. I think I like it better than my D's welded one:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaleB View Post
              I love that bracket. My next chair may well be a TiLite just so I can use Surelocks with that adapter. I think I like it better than my D's welded one:
              I would like better a Surelock welded one.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaleB View Post
                I love that bracket. My next chair may well be a TiLite just so I can use Surelocks with that adapter. I think I like it better than my D's welded one.
                My suggestion to Surelock to design an integrated clamp came after seeing a pic of Lasher's welded mount for the D's.

                What goes around. . . .
                stephen@bike-on.com

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                • #9
                  Jim,
                  Steve, the owner of D's Locks lives in the San Diego area (inland) and is more than happy to install brakes out of his shop. I can PM you his information if you want it and get the two of you in contact. I have had my D's locks for over a year now and LOVE them!!! I would NEVER go back to conventional locks since they put so much strain on the wrists to lock them when the tires are properly inflated. I have issues with my hands/wrists so it is nice to just be able to flip the lock lever and have BOTH wheels locked at once. I also have Natural Fit handrims on my wheelchair which helps with hand/wrist strain as well.
                  I am also in So Cal, about 2 hours north of SD. If you haven't heard of the San Diego Adaptive Sports Foundation you should check it out. If you are interested in playing wheelchair sports I'm sure they can get you hooked up. They have a competitive basketball team and a soccer team. I am a counselor at their Jr. Wheelchair Sports Camp every summer and really enjoy their programs for kids and adults in chairs. If I lived closer to SD (I hope to one day) I would be a LOT more actively involved with their programs.
                  Mandy
                  ~Mandy~
                  SCI as a result of spinal surgery
                  TiLite Aero Z!!!

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                  • #10
                    Thanks All.
                    I appreciate all of the info.

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                    • #11
                      I have also heard extremely good things about the adaptive sports folk. Check sdasf.org for info.

                      For D's locks, check dslocks.net. They are in El Cajon and I think very friendly.
                      T4 complete, 150 ft fall, 1966. Completely fused hips, partially fused knees and spine, heterotopic ossification. Unsuccessful DREZ surgery about 1990. Successful bladder augmentation using small intestine about 1992. Normal SCI IC UTI problems culminating in a hospital stay in 2001. No antibiotics or doctor visits for UTI since 2001: d-mannose. Your mileage may vary.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CurvySAT05 View Post
                        Jim,
                        Steve, the owner of D's Locks lives in the San Diego area (inland) and is more than happy to install brakes out of his shop. I can PM you his information if you want it and get the two of you in contact. I have had my D's locks for over a year now and LOVE them!!! I would NEVER go back to conventional locks since they put so much strain on the wrists to lock them when the tires are properly inflated. I have issues with my hands/wrists so it is nice to just be able to flip the lock lever and have BOTH wheels locked at once. I also have Natural Fit handrims on my wheelchair which helps with hand/wrist strain as well.
                        I am also in So Cal, about 2 hours north of SD. If you haven't heard of the San Diego Adaptive Sports Foundation you should check it out. If you are interested in playing wheelchair sports I'm sure they can get you hooked up. They have a competitive basketball team and a soccer team. I am a counselor at their Jr. Wheelchair Sports Camp every summer and really enjoy their programs for kids and adults in chairs. If I lived closer to SD (I hope to one day) I would be a LOT more actively involved with their programs.
                        Mandy
                        Hmmm you've got me interested. The other day my roommate remarked that he thought I was having a hard time with the locks on my chair. The demo chair probably didn't have the tires fully aired up, because they are much harder for me to get now. Especially with my left hand. Maybe I'll get something like D's or surelocks on my next chair (quite a ways away of course, but never too soon to windowshop!)
                        Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

                        I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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                        • #13
                          I wonder if you buy a set of this kind of wheel locks, for example for Spinergys wheels, and after you buy a wheelchair with Dinos; you have to buy a entire new set? or you just have to buy new wheels disc for Dinos?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
                            I wonder if you buy a set of this kind of wheel locks, for example for Spinergys wheels, and after you buy a wheelchair with Dinos; you have to buy a entire new set? or you just have to buy new wheels disc for Dinos?
                            My understanding is you'd just have to buy new wheel discs if the chairs' axle-mount configurations are identical.
                            Chas
                            TiLite TR3
                            Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
                            I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by totoL1 View Post
                              I wonder if you buy a set of this kind of wheel locks, for example for Spinergys wheels, and after you buy a wheelchair with Dinos; you have to buy a entire new set? or you just have to buy new wheels disc for Dinos?
                              You have to buy new disks and they aren't cheap. I have surelocks and both dino's and spinergy wheels. I would have had to spend 220 dollars to get an extra set of disks for the second set of wheels.

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