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    I need to buy a Hoyer type lift soon and need advice on what to look for. I'm a c 5/6 quad. I used a Sure Hands lift in the past but had to stop due to shoulder and under arm pain.

    Any recommendations or info would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!
    Renee

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    An alternative to SureHands is a hygienic sling. Google it for a picture. May solve the shoulder problem but replace it with an easy of use problem.

    I cannot use a SureHands because of the fused hips, but you are the first complaint I have seen of this nature on the SureHands. And somewhere in the back of my mind, I recall the SureHands sales guy telling me that it is designed not to put any pressure in the armpit. Are you sure it was set up properly.
    T4 complete, 150 ft fall, 1966. Completely fused hips, partially fused knees and spine, heterotopic ossification. Unsuccessful DREZ surgery about 1990. Successful bladder augmentation using small intestine about 1992. Normal SCI IC UTI problems culminating in a hospital stay in 2001. No antibiotics or doctor visits for UTI since 2001: d-mannose. Your mileage may vary.

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      #3
      I just saw a Hoyer Advance for a great price on eBay yesterday. It must be picked up in IL though (no delivery or shipping). It folds up small for travel and storage, which is an advantage. The Molift Smart is similar, but more expensive. The Liko Light is another option to check out.

      Be sure to purchase one that you have had a chance to try with a vendor first. Powered (vs. manual) is much safer for your caregivers.

      (KLD)

      We had the same problem with the Sure Hands with my mother, and in fact it was interfering with her breathing properly, so we had to stop using the metal sling and go with a fabric one.
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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        #4
        We have a Hoyer Advance and are happy with it. It is smaller than some we saw and easier to take places.

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          #5
          Originally posted by gac3rd View Post
          An alternative to SureHands is a hygienic sling. Google it for a picture. May solve the shoulder problem but replace it with an easy of use problem.

          I cannot use a SureHands because of the fused hips, but you are the first complaint I have seen of this nature on the SureHands. And somewhere in the back of my mind, I recall the SureHands sales guy telling me that it is designed not to put any pressure in the armpit. Are you sure it was set up properly.
          Thanks for the response. I had a ceiling track system in my last house. My new house has a double recessed ceiling so there's no way to mount it. I would use it with a sling if I could.

          I tried adjusting it every way possible but it would always end up under my armpits.

          Here's a video of a lady using one, you can see how it is under her armpits not just squeezing in on her sides. That's what it was doing to me.

          Here's the link;
          http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=Yeg2JS_Fzqg
          Renee

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            #6
            Originally posted by LindaT
            We have a Hoyer Advance and are happy with it. It is smaller than some we saw and easier to take places.
            Thank you! I've been looking at that lift. Is yours manual or powered?
            Last edited by sreneet; 6 Jan 2012, 3:07 PM. Reason: Typo
            Renee

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              #7
              Originally posted by sreneet View Post
              ...I tried adjusting it every way possible but it would always end up under my armpits...
              The body support is not for everyone. You do need some upper back strength to hold your shoulders from collapsing in. One thing my wife has done is lock her hands together across her stomach rather than hold onto the bar with her hands. That seems to help her keep her shoulders down. That doesn't leave her hands free but we are only doing attended lifts right now.
              If you have core strength, the claim that is does not lift from your arms is true. I can lift myself placing the pads 4" below the armpits with no slippage.

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                #8
                You know that a ceiling track lift can be mounted from wall supports, right? We did this where I work where we had asbestos in the ceiling to avoid having to do asbestos abatement procedures. I have photos if you are interested.

                (KLD)
                The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sreneet View Post
                  Thank you! I've been looking at that lift. Is yous manual or powered?
                  It is powered and well worth it.
                  We eventually had a ceiling lift installed, but the hoyer goes to the lake with us and came in handy when my husband wedged his chair on the small ramp going out to our garage. It was too heavy for me to get him out of that pickle.
                  I took the hoyer outside and got him out of the chair there.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MSspouse View Post
                    The body support is not for everyone. You do need some upper back strength to hold your shoulders from collapsing in. One thing my wife has done is lock her hands together across her stomach rather than hold onto the bar with her hands. That seems to help her keep her shoulders down. That doesn't leave her hands free but we are only doing attended lifts right now.
                    If you have core strength, the claim that is does not lift from your arms is true. I can lift myself placing the pads 4" below the armpits with no slippage.
                    My husband has lifted himself too and it worked. He then tried it again only using the muscles I have use of and it slid up on him too.
                    Renee

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LindaT View Post
                      It is powered and well worth it.
                      We eventually had a ceiling lift installed, but the hoyer goes to the lake with us and came in handy when my husband wedged his chair on the small ramp going out to our garage. It was too heavy for me to get him out of that pickle.
                      I took the hoyer outside and got him out of the chair there.
                      I want a powered unit too. Can you use it manually if the power malfunctions? That's nice that it's easy to transport. I bet you were really happy to have it when your husband got stuck. Not to mention how easy it was on him due to the fact he didn't have to be lifted out by several people. That's always a scary situation, hoping no one loses their grip on you.
                      Renee

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by sreneet View Post
                        Thanks for the response. I had a ceiling track system in my last house. My new house has a double recessed ceiling so there's no way to mount it. I would use it with a sling if I could.

                        I tried adjusting it every way possible but it would always end up under my armpits.
                        It is possible to have a "ceiling" track no matter what your ceiling or lack thereof. In our bed and bathroom the ceiling joists run parallel to the track, so there was no way to use the overhead joists as load carriers. The load is carried from the walls and posts to the floor. We were lucky to find a competent vendor.

                        On the SureHands shoulder problem, you and others know much more than I. Thanks for the info.
                        T4 complete, 150 ft fall, 1966. Completely fused hips, partially fused knees and spine, heterotopic ossification. Unsuccessful DREZ surgery about 1990. Successful bladder augmentation using small intestine about 1992. Normal SCI IC UTI problems culminating in a hospital stay in 2001. No antibiotics or doctor visits for UTI since 2001: d-mannose. Your mileage may vary.

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                          #13
                          BHM ceiling lifts are now made by Arjo but you can still go to bhm.com; they have a voyager portable lift that has a portable track that can be taken down and put up in a matter of minutes. There is actually 2 BHM Voyager portable lifts on ebay right now but you still need to buy the tracks and battery.

                          We have both the BHM V4 permanant ceiling lift, a Hoyer Advance battery operated lift and a manual lift. A recent misshap, lets just say batteries were dead in both the ceiling and the Hoyer lifts so we had to resort to the good old fashion manual lift.

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                            #14
                            I'm a C5/6 as well and have been using a Surehands lift for about 11 years. For the first 7 years I was able to use the slingless arm system and loved it but as time went on my underarms could not handle it anymore. The rep came and evaluated me and switched the leg plate but nothing could stop my body from wanting to slip down. Perhaps too much disproportional bottom weight was causing me problems. I weigh about 125 and was always a bit bottom heavy. I switched to a sling and am pleased but I still have to be careful that the sling is used on the closest loops to prevent it from slipping underneath my arms. I am sure have permanent damage from the overuse of the first apparatus. I regret not acting sooner. Have you tried the sling with the Surehands?

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                              #15
                              My Surehand system is on a pole and so I can use the sling. Perhaps, the track system would not be able to accommodate this. Sorry, I missed where you had said that you could not use the sling. The Surehand people should be more aware that certain people should not use their system and warn of what could take place after extended use. The guy who evaluated me should have seen that the new plates were not going to change things and could have saved me several weeks of serious pain and further injury.

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