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    The CareCure CAD Repository

    A possible future sticky depending on response.

    In addition to helping resolve doubts about whether hypothetical specs will result in an actual chair that meets its intended objectives, I have found that one can learn a lot about the various products and their individual nuances by comparing CAD drawings.

    Over the past year, a number of members have posted their CAD drawings on this forum. It struck me that a single thread devoted to CAD drawings could become an invaluable resource for somebody looking to spec out their own chair.

    Might I suggest the following "protocol" for members who are gracious enough to post their CAD drawings for others ...

    1) Make sure any personal information has been removed from the drawing.

    2) Use the "Go Advanced" feature to add a title using the following format to make searching easier...
    ww x dd Frame Angle Manufacturer Model (Unique Feature)
    Examples...
    15x16+1 85 Degree TiLite ZR2
    15x15 80 Degree TopEnd Crossfire Titanium with Ergo Seat


    3) If the actual chair has been delivered, post the CAD, a brief description, pics, and specs.

    4) To keep the thread focused, post a separate thread for discussion and link to that thread. This should limit off topic excursions. Additionally, those who are posting their CAD in order to get advice will have their own thread devoted to their future chair without derailing the purpose of this thread.

    It is my hope that this thread with the suggested protocol could create a truly unique repository of specific product information for reference while at the same time providing a way to address the needs of those who need help by linking to individual threads.

    I know my "protocol" sounds like a lot of hassle for some, but spec'ing out a custom ultralight is serious business. I have a feeling that those of us who go through the trouble of actually getting a CAD drawing won't mind the additional work.

    Let's see where this takes us. I'll post an example shortly.


    #2
    15x16 85 Degree TiLite ZRA S2 with Flip Up Footplates (DU100082)

    Until Picasso's thread a couple of years ago, I didn't know this was even an option on ZR models because it was not in TiLite's Designs Unlimited .pdf.






    The Specs...

    TiLite ZRA Series 2
    Red Pepper Anodize Package
    15" Seat Width
    16" Seat Depth
    16.5" Front Seat Height
    14.5" Rear Seat Height
    85 Degree Front Angle
    13.5" Seat To Footrest
    DU100082 Special To Build With Extra Cross Tube To Use Flip Up Footrests
    No Taper Footrest
    12.5" Footrest Width
    No V-Front Taper
    14.5"-19" Folding Adj-Ht Back
    18" Seat Back Height
    92 Degree Seat Back Angle
    2" Center Of Gravity
    0 Degree Camber
    4"X1.5" Plastic W/Poly Casters
    Standard Fork w/ Titanium Stems
    24" Spinergy Flexrims w/ Solid Tires
    Uni-Lock Set @ Push To Lock
    Rigid Removable Small Carbon Fiber Side Guards
    Swing Away Arm 9"-12"
    Catch-All
    Invacare/Motion Concepts MaTRx Elite Deep Back

    More Discussion Here

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      #3
      17x16 80 Degree TiLite Aero Z Series 1 with Flip-Back Footrest



      NOTE: Chair as pictured has non-factory options: chrome & stainless fasteners, bicycle lights, cafeteria tray under seat, brass side-guard shims.






      I especially love the adjustability, Natural Fits, flip-back footrest, D's Locks, Schwalbe MPE tires, and the general fit and trim of the chair. I chose an aluminum chair because weight is not an issue for me.

      TiLite Aero Z Series 1 (SN 55250)
      Colors = midnight blue pearl frame, sapphire anodized package, and navy blue upholstery
      Reinforced frame
      17” Seat Width (no taper)
      16” Seat Depth
      Aluminum Seat Pan
      17.5” Front Seat Height
      15” Rear Seat Height (adjusted to 14")
      80 Degree Front Angle
      15.5” Seat to Footrest (adjusted to 15")
      Flip-Back Footrest
      11” Footrest Width (Standard Front End with 3.5” taper)
      Folding, adjustable height (14”), adjustable-angle (92 deg), lock-when-folded, aluminum seat back with 4”-deep rigidizer bar
      velcro adjustable backrest upholstery.
      3” Center of Gravity
      4 Degrees of Camber
      6x1.25 TiLite Billet Soft-Roll Caster
      Standard Fork and stems
      24” standard Spinergy wire wheel.
      (D's Locks)
      Fold-down, rigid, aluminum standard side guards
      Schwalbe Marathon Plus Evolution tires (switched out solids, which had poor road traction and tore up my gloves)
      Natural-Fit Super Grip Hand-rim
      User-friendly anti-tips
      Catchall
      Small Seat Pouch
      Invacare InTouch Stabilite Gentle Contour cushion (not shown)
      Rear-wheel spacing = 3/4” (adjusted to 3/8")
      weight from bathroom scale (as pictured) = 37.5#
      My specs: 68", 200#, MS with C7 & T7 lesions incomplete

      Discussion Link
      Last edited by chasmengr; 28 Apr 2011, 12:33 AM.
      Chas
      TiLite TR3
      Dual-Axle TR3 with RioMobility DragonFly
      I am a person with mild/moderate hexaparesis (impaired movement in 4 limbs, head, & torso) caused by RRMS w/TM C7&T7 incomplete.

      "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but what I don't think you realize is that what you heard is not what I meant."
      <
      UNKNOWN AUTHOR>

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        #4
        17 x 16+1 80 Degree TiLite TR


        Seat Width 17”
        Seat Depth 16” + 1”
        Front Seat Height 19.5” (Should have ordered 20")
        Rear Seat Height 16”
        Front Angle 80 degrees
        Seat to Footrest 16.5” (Now set around 17”)
        Footrest Titanium Flip-Back
        Footrest Width 13” (2” Taper)
        Backrest 17.5” – 20.5”
        Folding Back 92 degrees (Now at 98)
        Center of Gravity Order set at 1" (Now set at approx. 2.5”)
        Front Wheel 4” x 1.5”
        Rear Wheels 24” (540) Spinergy LX
        Tires Schwable Marathon Plus



        Discussion thread: https://www.carecure.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125830
        C5-6 Complete - 8/13/1982

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          #5
          16x16 85 Degree TiLite ZRA S2









          Selected options:
          Frame Style: [ZRA (Full Adjustability - 265 lb weight limit)]
          Frame Finishes: [Satin]
          Color Anodizing Package: [Black - STD]
          Rear Seat Width: [16"]
          Front Seat Width: [No Taper - STD]
          Seat Depth: [16"]
          Frame Depth: [Same as Seat Depth - STD]
          Front Seat Height: [19.5"]
          Rear Seat Height: [16.5"]
          Front Frame Angle: [85° (n/a w/6" Front Wheels)]
          Seat to Footrest: [16"]
          Footrest Type: [Titanium Footrest w/Flat ABS Cover ]
          Front End Type & Footrest Width: Front Frame "Taper", B) 1.5" Taper Frame, LESS 4"Narrower = 12" Inside Width of Frame,
          Seat Back Type: [Folding Aluminum Adjustable Height Seat Back that Locks when Folded]
          TiShaft Back Release Bars: [Carbon Fiber]
          Push Handles: [Integrated Fold-Down Push Handles]
          Seat Back Height Range: [Medium Folding]
          Seat Back Height: [15"]
          Seat Back Options: [4" Deep Backrest Rigidizer Bar]
          Seat Back Angle: [92° - Folding Back]
          Center of Gravity: [3"]
          Rear Wheel Spacing: [1"]
          Camber: [2°]
          Camber Tube Type: [Titanium Camber Tube]
          Front Casters: [4" x 1" Performance 5 Spoke 2-Piece Billet Aluminum Wheel w/Soft Roll Tire - Silver Hub]
          Front Forks: [TiLite Slipstream Single-Sided Forks w/Titanium Fork Stems]
          Rear Wheel Size: [24" (540)]
          Rear Wheel Type: [Spinergy Wire Wheel w/Low Flange Hub - STD]
          Spinergy Spoke Color: [Black]
          Axles: [Stainless Quick Release - STD]
          Rear Wheel Tire: [Pneumatic Treaded - STD]
          Handrims: [Aluminum - Silver Anodized - STD]
          Handrim Mount: [Long Tab - STD]
          Wheel Locks: [Black Aluminum Scissor Lock]
          Upholstery Colors: [Black - STD]
          Back Upholstery: [Tension Adjustable by Straps (Required w/Fold-Down Push Handles)]
          Seat Upholstery: [Tension Adjustable Bolt-On - STD (n/a w/Tapered Seat)]
          Seat Cushions: None selected
          Side Guards: [Carbon Fiber Rigid Removable - Standard]
          Accessories: [Neoprene Impact Guards]
          24" LX SPOX/ BLACK/EVERYDAY
          24x1 SCHWALBE GREY RIGHTRUN
          24" DARK GREY SHOX TIRES
          JAY 3 PER SPECS; 16" W X 16" D, STD 3.75" HGT., MED. PELVIC LOAD, DUAL VALVE AIR INSERT, STD. STRETCH COVER
          L1 Burst Fracture Incomplete
          19th February 1998
          TiLite ZRA Series 2 01/31/2011
          New Design Back Hardware replaced by TiLite 03/28/2011

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            #6
            16x17 85 Degree Tilite ZRA S2

            [img]/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40326&stc=1&d=13055245 30[/img]

            [img]/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40327&d=1305524776[/img]

            The specs:

            Rear seat width: 16" (no taper)
            Seat depth: 17" (same frame depth)
            Front seat height: 19"
            Rear seat height: 15.5"
            Cushion: Supracor Stimulite Sport
            Front frame angle: 85 degrees
            Footrest: Titanium with flat ABS cover, 4" narrow than RSW (1.5" taper)
            Seat back type: Folding titanium adjustable height that locks when folded
            Tishaft back release bars: Titanium
            Integrated push handles
            Seat back: Medium folding set at 16" + 4" deep rigidizer bar
            Seat back angle: 95 degrees
            COG: 2"
            Rear wheel spacing: 1"
            Camber: 2 degrees (Titanium)
            Front casters: 5" x 1" plastic wheels with poly tires
            Front forks: Tilite standard
            Rear wheel: 24" Spinergy Spox (black)
            Rear wheel tires: Schwalbe Marathon Plus Evolution
            Axel: Stainless steel quick release
            Handrims: Aluminium, long tab
            Wheel locks: Uni Locks, pull to lock
            Back upholstery: Black, tension adjustable by straps
            Seat upholstery: Tension adjustable bolt-on
            Side guards: Aluminium rigid removable
            Armrests: Swing away flip-back tubular

            Discussion threads:
            /forum/showthread.php?t=141641
            /forum/showthread.php?t=142063
            /forum/showthread.php?t=142097
            /forum/showthread.php?t=142684
            /forum/showthread.php?t=143774
            /forum/showthread.php?t=146833
            C5-C6 ASIA C - October 15, 1984
            Tilite ZRA Series 2
            The DIGITAL AWAKENING
            Living One Day At A Time
            www.petertan.com/blog/

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              #7
              Originally posted by SCI_OTR View Post
              Did you get a full CAD drawing with your specs? I can't recall if you posted a CAD or just a sketch. For all I know, you might have given them the drawing.

              It sounds like Oracing uses slightly different specifications when they build their frames. It would be an excellent addition to the CC CAD Repository.

              .
              Here you`ve got it, is a Xtreme Box with 24" rear wheels and 4" casters and aluminium side guards without fender.
              The measurements are in millimeters, 1"= 25.4 millimeters.
              I will post pics once this monster is made.

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                #8
                18x16+1 85 Degree TiLite ZR Series 2

                The first ZR2 I have spec'd...





                The Specs:

                - 18" Seat Width
                - 16" Seat Depth
                - 17" Custom Frame Depth
                - 85 Degree Front Angle
                - 19.5" F / 16.5" R STF Heights
                - 16.5" Seat-To-Footrest
                - 3.5" Tapered Front Frame
                - 12" Footrest Width
                - Tubular Footrest W/Flat Abs Cover
                - Folding Titanium Backrest
                - Titanium Release Bar
                - Ti 12"-16.5" Folding Adj-Ht Back Set @ 12"
                - 95 Deg. Back Angle
                - 3.25" Center Of Gravity
                - 1" Rear Wheel Spacing
                - 2 Deg Camber
                - 25" Spinergy Spox w/ Schwalbe Marathon Evos
                - NaturalFit Standard Grip
                - Tension Adjustable By Straps Seat & Back Upholstery
                - Rigid Removable Carbon Fiber Side Guards--Standard Size


                Other..


                - 4" X 1.5" Frog Legs Aluminum Hub Soft Roll Casters
                - Frog Legs Wide Axle Kit
                - Quickie Ergo Scissor Locks

                Nice to see the 3 hole bearing fork instead of the 2 hole short
                bearing fork.
                Last edited by SCI_OTR; 25 May 2011, 9:39 PM.

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                  #9
                  Here is the monster before going to powder coating.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    16x16 85 degree Ti TR w/Ergo seat


                    Frame Style: TR
                    Rear Seat Width: 16"
                    Seat Depth: 16"
                    Ergonomic Seat: 6" Ergo Seat
                    Front Seat Height: 19.5"
                    Rear Seat Height: 15"
                    Front Frame Angle: 85°
                    Seat to Footrest Length: 17.5"
                    Seat Back Height - Adjustable: 14.5" - 19" (set to 14.5")
                    Seat Back Angle: 90°
                    Center of Gravity: 3.5"
                    Camber: 2°
                    Front Wheels: 4" x 1" 2-Piece Billet Aluminum Wheel w/Soft Roll Tire - Black Hub
                    Rear Wheel Size: 25" (559)
                    Rear Wheel Type: Topolino Carbon Core Wheels
                    Rear Wheel Tire: 25" Schwalbe RightRuns
                    Handrims: Plastic Coated
                    Cushon: ROHO Low profile 16x16
                    Last edited by Reed-edm; 30 May 2011, 10:30 PM. Reason: added pic
                    ---------
                    C5-6 / '88

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                      #11
                      Just thought i might be able to add something to this topic as it says CAD im an engineer and read another post on the forum asking how to open cad files if the were not sent in pdf or jpeg format
                      theres a free download from a company which is basically a cad program it lets you open dxf or dwg files which is the format most companies send their drawings out in its called draftsight and its a free version of autocad more or less

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                        #12
                        zr2

                        Frame Style - ZR Series II
                        TiLite SuperLite Editions
                        Titanium Open Loop Footrest
                        Folding Titanium Backrest
                        Carbon Fiber TiShaft Back Release Bar

                        Carbon Fiber Camber Tube
                        TiLite Slipstream Single-Sided Fork
                        Titanium Fork Stems
                        Frame Finish - Tattooed Titanium - Rock & Roll
                        Colour Anodize Package - Black
                        Seat Width - 14"
                        Seat Depth - 16"
                        Frame Longer Than Seat Depth - 1"
                        Front Seat Height - 18"
                        Rear Seat Height - 14.5"
                        Front Angle - 85 Degree
                        Standard Footrests - Titanium Open Loop Footrest
                        Measurement From Knee To Heel! - 14"
                        V-Front End
                        Footrest Width - 10"
                        Seat Back Type - Folding Titanium Adjustable Height
                        Seat Back that Locks when Folded
                        TiShaft Back Release Bars - Carbon Fiber
                        Integated Fold-Down Push Handles - Medium (14.5" - 19")
                        Seat Back Height - Folding Backrest - Set @ 14.5"
                        Available on All Backs - 4" Deep Backrest Rigidizer Bar
                        Seat Back Angle - 92 Degree
                        Centre of Gravity - 3"
                        Rear Wheel Spacing - 0.75"
                        Carbon Fiber Camber Tube - 4 Degree
                        Front Wheels - 4" x 1.5" Plastic Wheel With Poly Tire
                        Front Forks - TiLite Slipstream Single-Sided Fork
                        Titanium Fork Stems
                        Rear Wheels - Spinergy LX (12 SPOX) - Black w/Silver Hub, 24" x 1" (25-540) - Standard
                        Pneumatic Rear Tires - Schwalbe Marathon Plus Evolution
                        Axles - Quad Quick Release
                        Handrims - Plastic Coated
                        Long Tabs - Standard (Nearest to Wheel)
                        Wheel Locks - Push to Lock
                        Upholstery Colours - Black
                        Seat Upholstery (Black) - Tension Adjustable Bolt On
                        Side Guard Carbon Fiber - Fold Down Rigid - Standard
                        Side Guards Custom Cut to Profile of Rear Wheel
                        Calf Strap - Velco Adjustable - Medium (14" - 18")
                        Seat Pouch - Small - Black Nylon
                        Anti-Tips - Black Aluminum
                        Black Neoprene Impact Guards



                        I've got 99 problems but the wheelchair ain't 1

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                          #13
                          New ZRA S2 w/ ADI Disc brakes, Pushblax, and more

                          The chair is a 15 x 17+1 ZRA S2

                          Here are some of the basic specs:
                          89° front angle
                          17" rear seat height
                          20" front seat height
                          17.5" seat to footrest
                          17"+1" seat length
                          11" wide titanium w/ABS cover footrest with V front end
                          3.75" inch center of gravity
                          1.5" rear wheel spacing*
                          6° of camber – aluminum camber tube**
                          4 x 1.5" Plastic Wheel w/ Poly Tire (Froglegs)
                          Tilite standard fork
                          24" Spinergy LXs (with black hub – ordered from Matt from Pushblax)
                          Pushblax Double-Stuffs on short tabs
                          ROHO Hybrid Elite
                          Bodypoint Hipgrip***
                          ADI Disc Brakes w/ Variable Lever
                          ROHO Jetstream Pro (made by ADI) with adjustable hardware

                          *I started off with 1 inch spacing but the Hipgrip brackets rubbed so I had to send it back to ADI for more rear wheel spacing
                          **ADI can no longer modify carbon fiber camber tubes for their disc brakes
                          ***I might have to do a longer post on just the Hipgrip itself but in short I started using it several years ago in order to improve my sitting posture due to a small pressure sore on my lower lumbar back that resulted from the combination of my kyphotic (slouched forward) sitting posture at the time and scar tissue over my vertebrae left over from the implantation of a baclofen pump. Gradually I was able to utilize its ability to hold my hips in my cushion while reaching for things that would normally throw me out of my chair, like books on a shelf or something near the floor. Due to the fact that I have an incomplete injury (C-5 ASIA C) I was able to develop greater strength over the years in the few partially innervated muscles in my torso and back, for instance while riding the bus every day or scooting around campus in Seattle, because the Hipgrip was able to secure my hips requiring me to work on stabilizing and balancing my upper torso.

                          I was able to reposition the anti-tippers by removing set screw on the side and putting it in another hole [see ZRA S2 Suppliment page 6-6 (32)]

                          I'd like to thank all the folks here at CareCure that have shared their experiences with their own chairs and equipment, and whose posts contain valuable information not readily available elsewhere.












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                            #14
                            ZR2 - 15&quot;wide (w/1.5&quot; taper) x 17&quot; deep; 85° front angle

                            TiLite ZR Series 2
                            Polished frame
                            15" Seat wideth
                            1.5" Front seat width taper
                            17" Seat depth
                            19" Front seat height 16" Rear seat height
                            85° front angle
                            16" seat to footrest
                            Ti open loop footrest
                            Custom 7" Deep footrest parallel to ground
                            10" V-Front taper
                            Non-folding titanium backrest
                            8.5" Seat back height Custom 1.25" back post tubing
                            4" Deep backrest rigidizer bar 92° seat back angle 4" center of gravity
                            1" rear wheel setting
                            Titanium Fork Stems
                            Carbon fiber 2° camberFrog Legs soft roll casters 4" x 1.4" Frog Legs Unitine casters
                            25" Round Betty Dinos w/Schwalbe RightRun tires
                            ADI - Low profile carbon back rest
                            Central Composites - CF Seat guard and seat pan





                            Last edited by stephen212; 6 Aug 2011, 9:45 PM.
                            stephen@bike-on.com

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                              #15
                              Nicely done!

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