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    >>> I think if a operson could transfer to a car from that chair, they wouldn't need a pc.lol

    Its not about need though. Its about what a powerchair frees up your hands to do, and the extra abilities and freedoms it allows.

    Need sounds like my OT / the system again...

    I dont "need" beer, or hobbies, or a powered lawnmower. Or many things. I dont "need" a little fit blonde!

    But we all have at least some of these!

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      I used this post lot when researching my own p222se purchase: /forum/showthread.php?t=87236&page=2

      Direct quote from sci-otr:
      "You can actually get manual wheelchair type positioning with the 80 degree fixed front frame shown below. It is my favorite powerchair for para's who develop shoulder problems."

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        Originally posted by gac3rd View Post
        T-4 para, 69 years old, 45 years in manual chair. Went for decades saying I would stay in my manual chair until the end. Had an active outdoor life including wheelchair marathons, skiing, hand powered tricycles and tandem bicycles (used to do centuries), and camping all over the western US. Glad I was blessed to be able to do all it. I took in the whole "No pain, no gain", "no giving up" bit hook, line, and sinker. It is BS.

        Both shoulders have at least two ligaments completely torn in two. My shoulders sound and feel like rock grinders. The pain is acute. Cannot safely steer the car, and cannot go any distance once I am out of the car. I am confined to the house in my manual chair - which is driving me nuts. My wife's family is crammed with doctors, and I have tried every alternative therapy. Isometric exercise has alleviated a lot of the pain but not improved function.

        I have moved to a power chair just to be able to leave the house and go around the neighborhood. Will transition to a power chair full time -- this means a new car, and possible modifications in the house so it is non-trivial.

        buegerman has the right idea -- my quality of life would be far better if I had moved to a power chair a long time ago.
        I didn't use a manual chair. For 37 years, I insisted on "walking" on crutches and refused to even own a wheelchair. Once I started breaking bones and had to go to a chair, I went straight to a power chair...I was tired of shoulders and tendonitis (in shoulders) hurting all the time. After going to a power chair, I found out I can go many places I never could before. Restaurants, theatres and malls anytime I want. It's a brand new, much less stressful life now.

        Note: Walking is not what it seems to be!
        Millard
        ''Life's tough... it's even tougher if you're stupid!'' -- John Wayne

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          it isn't about transferring for me. i need to conserve my energy and have max independence outside. got pics on my new smart phone but it's smarter than me...can't upload and tired of trying

          anyway, that's one reason i insisted on flip up armrest on pc: transfers.

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            Originally posted by cass View Post
            it isn't about transferring for me. i need to conserve my energy and have max independence outside. got pics on my new smart phone but it's smarter than me...can't upload and tired of trying

            anyway, that's one reason i insisted on flip up armrest on pc: transfers.
            If you can email them as an attachment I will post them here for you.
            On my phone I open the pic, push menu button, share, choose email program, send.
            pat@beachmobility.com

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              Originally posted by Millard View Post
              I didn't use a manual chair. For 37 years, I insisted on "walking" on crutches and refused to even own a wheelchair. Once I started breaking bones and had to go to a chair, I went straight to a power chair...I was tired of shoulders and tendonitis (in shoulders) hurting all the time. After going to a power chair, I found out I can go many places I never could before. Restaurants, theatres and malls anytime I want. It's a brand new, much less stressful life now.

              Note: Walking is not what it seems to be!
              I agree with you. I did walk for so many years, but I walked without equipment so I didn't hurt my arms and I use a manuelle, but the same thing happened to me, I could do a lot more things that I had not done for all those walking years. I wish I had asked for the chair before.

              And I want another powerchair, the Permobil Trax I have is impossible in the town because I can't use it inside in the shops and I need it in the winter on the snow.
              TH 12, 43 years post

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                Here is a P222SE that just came in today. It has the 80 degree tapered fixed front frame, a Ride Designs Corbac, and an exceptionally well done Mossy Oak Camouflage finish.

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                  What is the measurement front to back on that p222se?
                  that is a good looking chair........
                  Is that camo finish dipped or painted on?

                  thanx, lance

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                    Originally posted by SCI_OTR View Post
                    Here is a P222SE that just came in today. It has the 80 degree tapered fixed front frame, a Ride Designs Corbac, and an exceptionally well done Mossy Oak Camouflage finish.
                    and my armrests are custom. look nothing like that. i need to get my pics up. i HATE HATE power chr armrests.

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                      kid sent some pics of my p222se w/customized armrests. attempting 1 upload. ok, more to come. this pic is showing chr next to bed from opposite side i transfer.

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                        another pic



                        oops, earlier comment wrong. both arms down here.



                        close up of brackets on joystick side


                        these mods all made at quickie (sunrise medical) on brand new chr. last 3 chrs had these. i just flip em up a lil or all the way. no latches, nothing.
                        Last edited by cass; 21 Apr 2011, 5:04 AM.

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                          Originally posted by pattherat View Post
                          If you can email them as an attachment I will post them here for you.
                          On my phone I open the pic, push menu button, share, choose email program, send.
                          ty! just needed to kick my kid! figuratively...

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                            Originally posted by lance30276 View Post
                            What is the measurement front to back on that p222se?
                            that is a good looking chair........
                            Is that camo finish dipped or painted on?

                            thanx, lance
                            It measures 43 inches front of footplate to the back of the rear anti-tip caster.

                            I don't know what process they use for the Mossy Oak finish, but it is completely smooth and has absolutely no gloss to it at all. It appears to be identical to the mossy oak finish applied to hunting gear.

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                              The camo color is like a film that floats on the top of a tub of liquid. The product is slowly lifted up through the film and it completely covers the object. I was very surprised when I saw it done on TV. Nothing at all dripped or fell off the item when it left the liquid.
                              C 5/6 Comp.
                              No Tri's or hand function.

                              Far better it is to try mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure. Than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much or suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows neither victory or defeat.

                              Teddy Roosevelt

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                                [QUOTE=buegerman;1354524]>>> I think if a operson could transfer to a car from that chair, they wouldn't need a pc.lol

                                I'm not sure I agree with you on this one, as there is a big difference between being able to transfer and being able to push in any meaningful way. There is also a big difference between trying to transfer in a driving rainstorm or howling blizzard, none of which I have to worry about because my powerchair takes me up the ramp and into my van, where I can take whatever time I need to transfer without freezing in place.

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