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    D's Locks!

    I posted a couple weeks ago about some different rims and wheels I'm wanting to get! I DID, and I love them! I bought the Spinergy Spox everyday wheels, narrow hub. Black spokes silver hub.

    So I'm wanting to get a set of the D's Locks brake system, I have read lots of good! I'm running the Spinergys with an Quickie GPV chair. I know this brake system will work for this chair type and set-up. Is anyone else running this braking system?? If so what you think of them durability wise, strength, reliability?

    #2
    Very very good, just look at other posts on the subject. You will never go back. Never had to even adjust them after years of use. Surelocks are good too if you get Stephen's discount and if you like their "retro/prototype" lever look.
    Pharmacist, C4-5 injury but functional C6 (no triceps/flexors)

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      #3
      I have D's . . . sort of . . . I received my new chair Oct 26, which is when the DMES ordered my D's. When they arrived, they had ordered the wrong wheel adapter (for 32-spoke instead of 30-spoke wheels). They reordered, and the order arrived last Monday, but the DMES had returned the locking disks as well as the wrong spoke adapters. So now they are reordering the disks . . .

      But I have remounted the pistons and lever (DMES mounted them poorly). (The lever is now mounted on my backrest where it's very easy to reach.) They mount nicely, and they work well. I did lube the cables and pistons with white lithium aerosol grease. The lever and piston actions are very smooth. One lever locks both wheels. It is soooo much friendlier than either the scissor locks (also installed on my chair for the interim) and the push to locks on my previous chair. I rarely use my scissors because they are hard to reach (not to mention slightly out of adjustment after only one month of infrequent use). I keep wanting to use the D's. They will lock against just the spokes (without the disk), but I think that's a bad idea, so I don't do it.

      Before you order, determine where you want to mount the lever; the mounting hardware is very tube-size specific.

      I've read that hub locks (D's & SureLocks) allow a locked chair to rock in pace a little, whereas traditional tire-squeeze locks don't let the chair move at all. Personally I don't think that's a big deal.

      I currently have solid tires, but am switching to pneumatics very soon. The D's don't squeeze the tire, so I hope the pneumatics will maintain their pressure longer.

      I'm very eager for the correct parts to arrive . . . (and my new tires - Schwalbe Marathon Plus Evolution Reflex).

      Durability? they seem to be very well built. After this winter I'll know more.
      Strength? again, very well built. Yes, strong.
      Reliability? They have to be more reliable than tire-squeeze locks, which go out of adjustment frequently.

      I'm not a long-term user, but I responded because I really like them so far, and wanted to share my rant on DMES service?!?!
      Last edited by chasmengr; 1 Dec 2010, 2:17 AM.
      Chas
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        #4
        Yes it rocks a little and takes some getting used to ... but I would never go back to conventional brakes, ever.
        Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

        T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

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          #5
          Originally posted by JGNI View Post
          Very very good, just look at other posts on the subject. You will never go back. Never had to even adjust them after years of use. Surelocks are good too if you get Stephen's discount and if you like their "retro/prototype" lever look.
          x2..........i prefer d's, very minimalistic and csteve is a great guy. ive had 4 chairs w/ them. a colours razorblade and 3 zr's. you get used to the rock w/ spinergy wheels i hear thats eliminated w/ like rb dino wheels............i cant believe reg brakes still exist, dangerous in my opinion
          Bike-on.com rep
          John@bike-on.com
          c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
          sponsored handcycle racer

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            #6
            Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
            i hear thats eliminated w/ like rb dino wheels
            Someone that has Dino's tells me it's not the case.
            Pharmacist, C4-5 injury but functional C6 (no triceps/flexors)

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              #7
              Originally posted by jgni View Post
              someone that has dino's tells me it's not the case.
              really????????
              Bike-on.com rep
              John@bike-on.com
              c4/5 inc funtioning c6. 28 yrs post.
              sponsored handcycle racer

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                #8
                I have 3 wheelsets each of which has Surelock hub discs: Spinergy LX, Round Betty Dinos, and Rogue Tempests. Of the three sets, the wiggle is least pronounced on the Rogues, though it's insignificant in any of them. Spoke stiffness is only one factor. Other influencing factors are how the disc is coupled to the hub and how completely the piston engages the holes in the disc. None will ever feel as rock solid as fully inflated tires with tight brakes digging into them.

                Going back to using conventional brakes would be like using an old-fashioned wicker wheelchair. One system is a constant source of headaches, the other delivers peace of mind.
                stephen@bike-on.com

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
                  Other influencing factors are how the disc is coupled to the hub and how completely the piston engages the holes in the disc.
                  So, is it the secret sauce of SureLocks?
                  Pharmacist, C4-5 injury but functional C6 (no triceps/flexors)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JGNI View Post
                    So, is it the secret sauce of SureLocks?
                    Not so secret.
                    stephen@bike-on.com

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
                      I have 3 wheelsets each of which has Surelock hub discs: Spinergy LX, Round Betty Dinos, and Rogue Tempests. Of the three sets, the wiggle is least pronounced on the Rogues, though it's insignificant in any of them. Spoke stiffness is only one factor. Other influencing factors are how the disc is coupled to the hub and how completely the piston engages the holes in the disc. None will ever feel as rock solid as fully inflated tires with tight brakes digging into them.

                      Going back to using conventional brakes would be like using an old-fashioned wicker wheelchair. One system is a constant source of headaches, the other delivers peace of mind.
                      Such a wheel whore Stephen

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                        #12
                        "Chas' quote"
                        After reading most of these post I think I may switch to the disc brakes that ADIrides makes. Much more expensive but I think I will like them better for going down hills and stuff! I think getting used to them will be a factor but I think I will like them. I don't think that the D's Locks will make me happy as much beings once the brakes are on, they are on. There is no feature like the ADIrides where there are four levels of brake pressure. Anyone running the ADIride brakes? I've seen a good video from an youtuber "whysohigh" only video I can find of the ADI brakes. Also not finding any videos of the D's brakes other than the one posted on their website.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by roller View Post
                          Such a wheel whore Stephen
                          Correction: All-around whore, thank you very much.
                          stephen@bike-on.com

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by zwthomp View Post
                            "Chas' quote"
                            After reading most of these post I think I may switch to the disc brakes that ADIrides makes. Much more expensive but I think I will like them better for going down hills and stuff! I think getting used to them will be a factor but I think I will like them. I don't think that the D's Locks will make me happy as much beings once the brakes are on, they are on. There is no feature like the ADIrides where there are four levels of brake pressure. Anyone running the ADIride brakes? I've seen a good video from an youtuber "whysohigh" only video I can find of the ADI brakes. Also not finding any videos of the D's brakes other than the one posted on their website.
                            That's why it's "D's Locks" and "SureLock": they're locks, not brakes.
                            stephen@bike-on.com

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                              #15
                              ahhhhhh!!!!!! I finally got through with ADIrides... Talking to them they told me that I need to send them my chair because of tools like a press that is used to install them, lol...I just had to laugh! I told them that I could figure it out but insisted that I send it to them. I'm sure I could figure it out, I used to work on cars, like my drag car, but I could be wrong the pictures on the site don't make installing look very difficult! I DON'T think the shipping would be cheap at all and I wouldn't have a chair to be in, I WOULD GO NUTS!!!

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