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    #31
    Originally posted by DaleB View Post
    This bugged me too, 'til I started doing things different. Depending on function, I guess, but I get where i want to be, hit the brakes and then spin the wheels until they click instead of moving the entire chair back and forth. A little lean to the left and I can spin the right tire easily, and vice versa.
    yup[ thats what i do
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      #32
      Originally posted by thehipcrip View Post
      I'm curious about the cushion, too. Does that stem(?) always protrude from the front right corner like that? Looks like a sore just waiting happen.

      As he said, it's far enough out of the way, no chance of sore from it, however it is easy to knock out the valve. I loved the cushion, slim, light and easy, then I knocked the valve out after about a year. I used some pvc sealant to put it back in as it is just plastic, but a few months later it came out again. Since then it's hasn't held air like it did. I'm trying to find another cushion that is as light and low profile but doesn't have the valve problem.
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        #33
        Originally posted by TexasWheelz View Post
        As he said, it's far enough out of the way, no chance of sore from it, however it is easy to knock out the valve. I loved the cushion, slim, light and easy, then I knocked the valve out after about a year. I used some pvc sealant to put it back in as it is just plastic, but a few months later it came out again. Since then it's hasn't held air like it did. I'm trying to find another cushion that is as light and low profile but doesn't have the valve problem.
        My Zoid developed a leak by the valve but it was within the 2 year warranty period and Varilite replaced the cushion.
        stephen@bike-on.com

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          #34
          Shows how much I pay attention to warranty stuff when I get things. One of the best cushions I've had, better then Jay because of the weight and better then Roho because it's stable.

          Still haven't decided what I'll get with new chair, about to get a Supracor from a local dealer to test and see if I like it. If not then it will probably be a Zoid again.
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            #35
            i like the ride cushion. its about the same weight as a low pro roho(which gave me a total of 4 stage 3's on the ishchials). since ive been on the ride zero sores and when i was mapped no pressure anywhere except my hamstrings where i have plenty of natural cushioning.

            i want some sure locks as i hate these damn scissors. i have a zr but with 5" of dump my camber tube is almost on the frame. if i can get past that how much width does it add on each side?
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              #36
              Originally posted by James Smith View Post
              i want some sure locks as i hate these damn scissors. i have a zr but with 5" of dump my camber tube is almost on the frame. if i can get past that how much width does it add on each side?
              No increase in width, at least not with custom integrated Surelock/ZR clamp setup.
              Last edited by stephen212; 11 May 2010, 8:29 AM.
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                #37
                Originally posted by James Smith View Post
                i like the ride cushion. its about the same weight as a low pro roho(which gave me a total of 4 stage 3's on the ishchials). since ive been on the ride zero sores and when i was mapped no pressure anywhere except my hamstrings where i have plenty of natural cushioning.

                i want some sure locks as i hate these damn scissors. i have a zr but with 5" of dump my camber tube is almost on the frame. if i can get past that how much width does it add on each side?
                no issue w/ d's or sdures
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                  #38
                  ok i see thanks stephen...what about with camber? i've currently got 4 deg and thinking about goin with 6 deg. will the pin still hit the holes or would it bind going in at an angle?
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by James Smith View Post
                    ok i see thanks stephen...what about with camber? i've currently got 4 deg and thinking about goin with 6 deg. will the pin still hit the holes or would it bind going in at an angle?

                    James:

                    I don't think it should be an issue, but it's best to contact Jack (surelock@gbta.net or call (866) 315-3327) to be certain.

                    6° is a lot of camber for everyday use, innit? The doorways must be very wide where you live. What is your seat width?
                    stephen@bike-on.com

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TexasWheelz View Post
                      Shows how much I pay attention to warranty stuff when I get things. One of the best cushions I've had, better then Jay because of the weight and better then Roho because it's stable.

                      Still haven't decided what I'll get with new chair, about to get a Supracor from a local dealer to test and see if I like it. If not then it will probably be a Zoid again.
                      Stimulite Sport is the best cushion for active people imo, i`ve got one and love it, never back to air or gel cushion again.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
                        no issue w/ d's or sdures
                        my ds locks did add width, about an inch in total. i have a tilite tr, and when i bought the ds, i couldnt fit the piston adaptor on the camber bar, as it stuck out way too much. i spoke to steve several times about it and he said that sometimes tilites are built arbitrarily in that area, so even though i had the correct piston adapter, it didnt fit properly. he said that another guy he works with had that exact problem with his second chair, not his first, and he eventually custon made an adapter. i got an aluminium guy to mill off half of the adapter ring, then i added several spacers, and had just enough room for the wheels to spin. i didnt have enough room for the 1/4 inch asked for on the ds locks documentation, that would have taken another spacer, but i was getting sick of having my chair so much wider than necessary.

                        i like stephans integrated surelocks piston

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by amyk View Post

                          i like stephans integrated surelocks piston
                          The same integrated piston/camber clamp can be achieved on a TR, though I'm not sure if Surelock has done one before -- mine was the first integrated design for any chair. And it's also possible, I suppose, that the Surelock piston/pin could be made to accommodate a D's ring/disc, if it isn't already, which would save some money.

                          p.s. It's Stephen, not Stephan. Different names pronounced very differently. Don't make that mistake again.
                          stephen@bike-on.com

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                            #43
                            terribly sorry, i cant spell... or is it type? hang on, ill figure it out...

                            the camber clamp arrangement on the tr is very different, because the cog is continuously adjustable. but i cant use hub locks anymore as ive changed to wijit wheels, so i had to return to on-tyre brakes.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by amyk View Post
                              terribly sorry, i cant spell... or is it type? hang on, ill figure it out...

                              the camber clamp arrangement on the tr is very different, because the cog is continuously adjustable. but i cant use hub locks anymore as ive changed to wijit wheels, so i had to return to on-tyre brakes.
                              The TR and ZR have different COG designs, yes, but that's not material with respect to a locking hub system -- the relationship between the clamps and the wheels is the same; they function as a unit.
                              Last edited by stephen212; 12 May 2010, 3:04 PM.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by stephen212 View Post
                                I promised Erick Bryant, president of Round Betty, some pictures of my ZR with my Dinos. I was waiting first to receive my matching Frog Legs Uni-tine forks and casters and a replacement set of locking pins from Surelock before I got it all working. (Surelock's new pins are smaller to accommodate their new 27-hole disc -- the holes are smaller too.)



                                I know this thread is a couple months old, I was searching RdBetty's... anyways I am wondering about the backrest frame on this chair. Is this what TiLite supplies when a solid backrest is ordered with the chair? ie. the rigidizer bar up high like that? The rigidizer looks larger diameter too. Considering this chair is 5 years old, maybe this is something that has changed over the last few years?

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