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    I have slept most of my SCI years in a regular bed. Have found them easier to transfer in and out of rather than hospital beds. The plus side is that it doesn't make me feel that I am any different from others. I mean, I can't walk, have to use the w/c and somehow find ways to live in a world of obstacles many times. So, why shouldn't I use a regular bed. I love the softness of the mattress that you can feel upon lying on a pillow top mattress. Or the firmness of the firm mattress that can give your back support. Most of all, the spaciousness of the full sized or queen sized beds. Sleep like a rock when on this bed.

    The visiting nurse has told me that he thinks a hospital bed would be better though. He has said that it is easier to get in or out of. Plus that it has the options of raising your head or feet. He has asked me several times why I don't get one since the doctor could order it for me. My answer ... I hate them. They are hot, sweaty hot, I mean. The plastic that covers the mattress is yucky. Even when they put those egg crates, they can be a problem with making me feel too warm. Makes me feel like I'm in the hospital. That I am sick. It gives me a negative feeling and makes me feel depressed. I don't care if mine doesn't raise my head or feet up, I love sleeping in a regular bed.

    The height to my bed is no problem in tranferring in or out of independently, so I think that there's no reason to change. I am happy with the way it has worked.

    So, my question here is; what kind of bed do you use and which ones are more comfortable plus easier for you to transfer to and from. Sure would like to hear from others about your opinions as to using hospital beds or the regular ones.
    Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. ~Victor Hugo~

    A warrior is not one who always wins,
    but one who keeps on fighting to the end ~ Unknown ~

    #2
    As long as you can transfer safely in and out of your regular bed, then you should continue to do so. I sleep on a sleep number bed with a white wrought iron frame (very girly) and I love it.
    A dolla makes me holla, honey boo boo! - borrowed from Honey boo boo child

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      #3
      queensize ikea with a fake sheepskin pad.

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        #4
        Originally posted by wtf View Post
        As long as you can transfer safely in and out of your regular bed, then you should continue to do so. I sleep on a sleep number bed with a white wrought iron frame (very girly) and I love it.
        Hey, I have seen those ads for them so many times. Am sold on them even though I can't afford one. Do you meet any problems with them for height?

        I think my nurse says this because when he gets here, I am in bed and he has to sit down on it to get my vitals. He has often complained about his back. Had an injury previously. He is tall and a bit heavy but he is a sweetheart. Wouldn't trade him for another nurse.

        Raven
        Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. ~Victor Hugo~

        A warrior is not one who always wins,
        but one who keeps on fighting to the end ~ Unknown ~

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          #5
          Raven, if you don't want a hospital bed, then you certainly don't have to have one, but keep in mind that the frame and the mattress are two different issues. The wide variety of mattresses that you can put on a standard hospital bed frame is huge, esp. if you are looking at pressure reducing mattresses. Eggcrate is totally worthless for pressure reduction by the way.

          In addition, there are non-hospital bed adjustable beds (although most do not do high/low) which you can get in any size from twin through Californai King. Many of these can also be fit with a pressure reducing mattress. You just need to be sure that you get a type that a mobile lift would fit under if you should need to use one in the future (such as after an injury or illness, or as you get older).

          If you require the assistance of a caregiver, then the high/low feature is more important as it is a back-saver for them.

          I am moving this over to the Equipment forum. We have already had a number of discussions about beds there in the past.

          (KLD)
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Raven View Post
            Hey, I have seen those ads for them so many times. Am sold on them even though I can't afford one. Do you meet any problems with them for height?

            I think my nurse says this because when he gets here, I am in bed and he has to sit down on it to get my vitals. He has often complained about his back. Had an injury previously. He is tall and a bit heavy but he is a sweetheart. Wouldn't trade him for another nurse.

            Raven
            Raven, no problems, my bed is flush with my wc so the transfer is fairly easy.

            Ah but I can see your nurse's point that a higher bed would save his back. Could he sit on a chair while taking your vitals. Hope you guys figure something out.
            A dolla makes me holla, honey boo boo! - borrowed from Honey boo boo child

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              #7
              Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
              Raven, if you don't want a hospital bed, then you certainly don't have to have one, but keep in mind that the frame and the mattress are two different issues. The wide variety of mattresses that you can put on a standard hospital bed frame is huge, esp. if you are looking at pressure reducing mattresses. Eggcrate is totally worthless for pressure reduction by the way.

              In addition, there are non-hospital bed adjustable beds (although most do not do high/low) which you can get in any size from twin through Californai King. Many of these can also be fit with a pressure reducing mattress. You just need to be sure that you get a type that a mobile lift would fit under if you should need to use one in the future (such as after an injury or illness, or as you get older).

              If you require the assistance of a caregiver, then the high/low feature is more important as it is a back-saver for them.

              I am moving this over to the Equipment forum. We have already had a number of discussions about beds there in the past.

              (KLD)
              Thanks KLD. I like the idea of the high/low feature. The only thing for me is that somehow the hospital beds look so depressing to me. They make me feel down emotionally and like I'm dying. There, I said it. They make me feel like I am so sick that I can't use a regular bed and am on my deathbed(shivers running down my back). Maybe it's just me or my mind, I really don't know but that's how I feel.

              I do have to have some help at times to sit up in bed though recently. However, I consider this only temporary. Have had to deal with my shoulder and flank pain which hurt more when I try to sit up. We have always tried to use the lift to get me out of bed whenever I am having to deal with pain problems that make it hurt more to move.

              Something else I wanted to ask. I noticed on my recent mattress that it sank down in the area where I sleep and has remained like that. Had never had this problem with other mattresses before. When I brought this one, I looked for the ones you can flip over but the salesman said this one is firm and wouldn't take it back when I found that this one couldn't be flipped. This is a Serta mattress just like the other ones I have had before. Has anyone had problems with their mattresses sinking down and staying down where you lay or sit?

              Jody, just looked up the Ikea. Was happy to find they do have the ones you can flip over. they are the spring ones. Do you use that type? If so, what have you found to be positive or negative in their use?

              Raven
              Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. ~Victor Hugo~

              A warrior is not one who always wins,
              but one who keeps on fighting to the end ~ Unknown ~

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                #8
                Raven,

                I've got a SN bed too. I got the adjustable frame, no hi-lo, just head/feet. When I got it, I went thru 3 sets of legs on it to get it to the height I wanted for xfer purposes. So you have options. But if he is used to a true hospital bed for the hi-lo feature, that would limit you, but there are a few out there.

                I really like my head raising feature, watch a lot of tv in bed and this makes it easy. I set my "number" to 35 for sleeping and 100 for transferring.
                "a T10, who'd Rather be ridin'; than rollin'"

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                  #9
                  Good thread Raven, I also need a new bed I just don't know where to begin.

                  Anyone have much experience with pillowtops?
                  They are a lot cheaper than tempur pedic or sleep number.
                  Problem is you can't flip pillowtop. Will they get indented fast?
                  I wouldn't mind replacing it in say 4 or 5 years, but not in 1 or 2!
                  Aerodynamically, the bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumble bee doesn't know that, so it goes on flying anyways--Mary Kay Ash

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                    #10
                    Regular full size bed for me. The only adaptation is that the frame sits on 5" riser's that I got for $40.00 at Bed and Bath, along with the quad ladder cloth thing (forgot it's name) tucked between the mattress and box spring.

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                      #11
                      Novie, I bought a pillowtop once. The difference was the height on the top. I chose one that wasn't too high. Nonetheless, it was soooo soft and comfortable and didn't dent for a long time. Nick liked it a lot so I let him have it. After he and his x gf started living together, it did. Seriously. She is pretty big and heavy, particularly when she got preggo. They kept it for several years. I remember that some of his friends would come to visit him and they would go to his bedroom and actually start to fall asleep on it. This was before his x though. Anyways, that was my experience with the pillowtop. I wouldn't mind finding another one like that one. Btw, it didn't dent at all during the first years, it took a long time for it.

                      McDuff, I like the idea of having the head rising but not the hospital bed idea. I watch TV a lot lately in bed but then doze off before I know it. Age is catching up with me I think. heehee As for the nurse, we will have to figure out a way so that I can raise my bedframe without it becoming a problem for me to transfer I guess. Also, wanted to ask you if the higher number means firmer?

                      Eileen, I have slept in the regular beds all the time with the exception of when in the hospitals, at the beginning of my injury, and a couple of years ago when I was dealing with a sore. I missed my bed so much during those times. So actually haven't slept in them much.

                      Raven
                      Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. ~Victor Hugo~

                      A warrior is not one who always wins,
                      but one who keeps on fighting to the end ~ Unknown ~

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                        #12
                        There are a few adjustable beds that don't look so much like a hospital bed and have a high low feature. Most come in twin/full/queen or king configurations. Here are a couple:

                        http://www.healthproductsforyou.com/...-A-Bed-Hi-Low/

                        http://www.1-800-823-4bed.com/electric-bed.htm

                        http://www.transfermaster.com/produc...ital-beds.html

                        http://www.goldenrest.net/products/gr_ghlbab.html

                        http://www.rotecbeds.com/client/page...=986&clef2=247

                        For a mattress, if you are at risk for pressure ulcers, an extra firm regular mattress like a Serta that can be flipped is really not for you. You should have something that is pressure reducing for your skin, which allows you to sink in a little and mold around you a bit (this results in better pressure distribution). Memory foam is one option, but certainly not the only one. Mattresses should also be replaced every 5-10 years depending on their construction and materials. If the mattress has a "set" (a caved in area), it needs to be replaced.

                        (KLD)
                        The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Raven View Post
                          Novie, I bought a pillowtop once. The difference was the height on the top. I chose one that wasn't too high. Nonetheless, it was soooo soft and comfortable and didn't dent for a long time. Nick liked it a lot so I let him have it. After he and his x gf started living together, it did. Seriously. She is pretty big and heavy, particularly when she got preggo. They kept it for several years. I remember that some of his friends would come to visit him and they would go to his bedroom and actually start to fall asleep on it. This was before his x though. Anyways, that was my experience with the pillowtop. I wouldn't mind finding another one like that one. Btw, it didn't dent at all during the first years, it took a long time for it.

                          Raven
                          Thanx Raven. I would need to get a whole new frame because I want to go from a full to a queen so probably have it custom made for even transfers. My sister just got a new king sized pillow top and there is no way I can get on it myself. It's so high someone has to toss me up there.

                          KLD what is your opinion on pillowtops? I have a regular bed that is probably decades old and you can feel the springs in some areas but no reddness from it on my skin. I know it needs replaced.

                          Sorry to hijack, Raven.
                          Aerodynamically, the bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumble bee doesn't know that, so it goes on flying anyways--Mary Kay Ash

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                            #14
                            Pillow tops are OK if you are not trying to heal up a wound, or don't have a history of pressure ulcers, or old scars, but they really don't do a whole lot to reduce pressure...they really help more for comfort. A good quality foam mattress will provide better pressure reduction.

                            (KLD)
                            The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                              #15
                              Raven, yes higher number means firmer. At 100 it is pretty damn firm. I don't move at night, just sleep on my back, bad I know, but being able to set the SN real low almost makes it like a soft hammock.

                              November, I chose my middle-of-the-road Sleep Number mattress just because it is not a pillowtop. The pillow models were like you said, way up there. Also pillowtops can't be flipped, I had a good one pre-sci and it developed the dreaded mattress hole fairly quickly. If you stick with regular, I would go for the minimal pillowtop and one that can flip.
                              "a T10, who'd Rather be ridin'; than rollin'"

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