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    #16
    So let me see if I have this right, if they couldn't transfer, TR and fuentes would never drive? They'd wait until someone else could drive them around? I've heard it all now..





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      #17
      Originally posted by 2jazzyjeff
      So let me see if I have this right, if they couldn't transfer, TR and fuentes would never drive? They'd wait until someone else could drive them around? I've heard it all now..


      I drive from my chair , I don't see the big deal.Yes, sh*t can happen-that's life. I just choose to live mine and I can't without my independence, if that means I drive from my chair then so be it.

      Hell, I broke my neck while riding in a car seat!

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        #18
        I have a 6 way transfer seat base, and as long as I am able to transfer,
        I will keep driving from the van seat. It feels safer and more comfortable
        for "ME".

        YMMV

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          #19
          Originally posted by 2jazzyjeff
          So let me see if I have this right, if they couldn't transfer, TR and fuentes would never drive? They'd wait until someone else could drive them around?
          Honestly? I don't know what I would do if I couldn't transfer into the driver's seat.

          C.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Tiger Racing
            Have you ever been involved in a crash in this vehicle? That would be when a problem would arise.

            C.
            No I have not been involved in a crash with this van. What problems do you invision that would not happen while driving in a car seat ? If you are hit from behind would your head snap foward or back? Would a head rest help? My chair is fully locked down and I use a seatbelt. If I worried about being in a crash all the time I would stop driving. Anyway the thread starter was only asking if people would drive with their chair if there was a better way to secure it. The ez-lock I use with my chair has worked for me. I would like to see what his idea of a better lock is.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Junkyarddog
              First Post- C6-7 quad 17yrs
              Hi to all, I have driven from my manual chair with the ez-lock for 14 years with no problems at all. My chair I run now (Top End Titanium Terminator)has a custom bracket for the ez-lock. The head rest support has not been needed . I do drive a Dodge minivan with a lowered floor so high acceleration has not been a issue .Transfers are the reason for the van . I sit in my chair for 16 - 18 hrs daily so I feel more support and stable in it than if I were in the passenger seat of a chair.

              Same here but I have a full size van. I'm C-5 and drive from my manual chair. It was the best decision I made. The extra weight on the manual chair is tough but it gives you an extra workout. I try and think positive about the extra weight. If it wasn't for driving from my chair I wouldn't be driving at all. If anybody is tossing the idea around, I would highly recommend it.... It's awesome.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Rononwheels
                I have a 6 way transfer seat base, and as long as I am able to transfer,
                I will keep driving from the van seat. It feels safer and more comfortable
                for "ME".

                YMMV
                Sorry if this is off-topic a bit, but Ron I will be driving in the same setup as you with a transfer seat base in a van. Do you have an ez-lock system to hold your wheelchair in place from where you transfered? I'm in a manual chair and confused on if it needs to be secured down if i transfer into a driver's seat while driving? Anyone else with knowledge on this, i'd appreciate it.
                Courage, it would seem, is nothing less than the power to overcome danger, misfortune, fear, injustice, while continuing to affirm inwardly that life with all its sorrows is good; that everything is meaningful even if in a sense beyond our understanding; and that there is always tomorrow.
                -Dorothy Thompson

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Junkyarddog
                  No I have not been involved in a crash with this van. What problems do you invision that would not happen while driving in a car seat ?
                  Every component that goes into a modern vehicle is extensively researched and tested as a whole for crash safety. The car frame, seats, belts, mounting points, etc are all designed to work together to protect the occupants as much as possible in the event of a crash. Do car manufacturers test their vehicles with wheelchairs in place of the driver's seats? Do wheelchair manufacturers test their products inside of a multitude of vehicles? I don't know the answer to those questions, but I would certainly find the answers if I ever found myself in the position of needing to decide whether I had to give up driving.

                  If you are hit from behind would your head snap foward or back? Would a head rest help?
                  Rear collisions cause the occupants' heads to first snap backwards and then forward (i.e. whiplash). Yes, a head rest would help.

                  If I worried about being in a crash all the time I would stop driving.
                  Geez, I hate it when people go to extremes when somebody brings up safety concerns. If you really think it's such a silly thing for some of us to worry about safety, then why do you bother wearing a seatbelt? And FTR, you should worry about crashes all the time. If that concern isn't at least at the back of your mind every time you get behind the wheel, then you aren't paying enough attention. Also, FTR, I haven't said anything condemning anyone else who chooses to drive from their wheelchairs. I have only stated that I would not want to do so myself.

                  Anyway the thread starter was only asking if people would drive with their chair if there was a better way to secure it.
                  Yes, and a few of us have stated that we would not.

                  C.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Extrmmxer
                    Same here but I have a full size van. I'm C-5 and drive from my manual chair. It was the best decision I made. The extra weight on the manual chair is tough but it gives you an extra workout. I try and think positive about the extra weight. If it wasn't for driving from my chair I wouldn't be driving at all. If anybody is tossing the idea around, I would highly recommend it.... It's awesome.
                    How true. Every situation is different.Being able to drive changes your life with a sci.
                    Obviously safety is a concern.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ashley
                      Sorry if this is off-topic a bit, but Ron I will be driving in the same setup as you with a transfer seat base in a van. Do you have an ez-lock system to hold your wheelchair in place from where you transfered? I'm in a manual chair and confused on if it needs to be secured down if i transfer into a driver's seat while driving? Anyone else with knowledge on this, i'd appreciate it.
                      hi ashley
                      i've been driving for almost 3 years in a van with a transfer seat. i transfer from both a manual and power wc and both are fine without being tied down. sharp corners can make them slide a bit but thery're never out of reach. you should be fine.

                      jbinny- i'm sick of transferring and would love to drive from my chair. i know plenty that do and i know at least i would be interested. keep me posted.

                      jesse

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                        #26
                        thanks Jesse, I was hoping it wouldn't fly backwards and I'd be stuck in the van!
                        Courage, it would seem, is nothing less than the power to overcome danger, misfortune, fear, injustice, while continuing to affirm inwardly that life with all its sorrows is good; that everything is meaningful even if in a sense beyond our understanding; and that there is always tomorrow.
                        -Dorothy Thompson

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                          #27
                          Here are a few photos of my custom fabricated bracket which work with the ez-lock tie down.

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                            #28
                            Hi Ashley,

                            No ez-lock, And I don't usually tie my chair down

                            Originally posted by Ashley
                            Sorry if this is off-topic a bit, but Ron I will be driving in the same setup as you with a transfer seat base in a van. Do you have an ez-lock system to hold your wheelchair in place from where you transfered? I'm in a manual chair and confused on if it needs to be secured down if i transfer into a driver's seat while driving? Anyone else with knowledge on this, i'd appreciate it.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Junkyarddog
                              Here are a few photos of my custom fabricated bracket which work with the ez-lock tie down.
                              Very nice. Mine on my chair is the actual EZ Lock setup. Yours looks much cleaner and lighter.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Junkyarddog
                                Here are a few photos of my custom fabricated bracket which work with the ez-lock tie down.
                                The real problem even with a manual chair and the EZ-Lockdown is not the auto lock system which will hold the chair, it is that the back rest of a wheelchair wouldn't even pass a five MPH crash test. They aren't engineered to take any force.

                                I sat on an International Advisory Cmt regarding accessible van standards for many years and the only acceptable seating that met the ANSI/CSA/International Standards for engineering and safety criteria was the original seat from the manufacturer.

                                I would never us a manual chair to drive from or even to stay in while traveling. I don't like para transit for that same reason although their vehicles tend to be large and massive should an "accident" occur.

                                There was and always will be a concern about modifying any vehicle and certifying for the road including changing seats or lowering floors and so many other issues. William

                                William

                                ... rolling since 1989
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