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    17x17 85 Deg TiLite ZRa-c Pics

    This is one I spec'd out as a first chair for a recently injured veteran who became paraplegic.

    Here are the specs...

    - 17x17 TiLite ZRA-c
    - 85 Degree Front Angle
    - V front end with 11" footrest Width
    - 16" Seat-to-Footrest Length (Spec)
    - 17.5" Seat-to-Footrest Length (Actual)
    - Seat-To-Floor Heights: 20.5 Front/16.5" Rear
    - COG: 3.25"
    - Rear Wheel Spacing: 1"
    - 2 Degrees Camber
    - Standard Carbon Fiber Side Guards w/ Quad Hole
    - 5" x1" Billet Aluminum Casters w/ Soft Roll Tire
    - 26"x1" Spinergy SLX Wheels with Schwalbe Marathon Evolution Plus tires
    - NaturalFit Handrims



    A major reason I like to post pics of custom titanium rigid frames is that I learn something new from every one I do.

    This was the first TiLite I ordered with the new "User-Friendly Anti-Tip". While there may be a slight amount of additional weight, I must admit it is pretty cool. By pushing down on the receiver (at the "Ti" logo), the anti-tip can be rotated up out of the way. If one has decent hand function, a low enough back height, and is mindful of their COG, they can be flipped up while sitting in the chair (If the user is not mindful of their chair's COG, it may be the entire wheelchair that flips up). They can still be removed like traditional anti-tips, but swing up high enough to be able to pull the chair across one's lap without having to take them off.




    This was also the first TiLite I've ordered with carbon fiber side guards since they resumed production last year. In addition to their lighter weight, there is an extra piece of material used to reinforced where the panel bolts to the mounting bracket. The extra material moves the panel out an additional 1/8" compared to the aluminum sideguards--enough to fold down the back without having to removing them.

    Unless someone decided to configure this ZRa to spin around in a counterclockwise direction as quickly as possible, TiLite made a rather surprising error during production. They mounted the Schwalbe's so that tread pattern points the wrong direction on the left wheel! C'mon TiLite, two rights don't make it right! Right?

    No concern of mine, however, the veteran who received this chair has already learned to change tires as part of his rehab and will remount the tire himself within the next day or so. He has one of the best attitudes I've seen in quite some time with respect to his rehabilitation and eagerness to get on with life. Hopefully, this ZRa will play a small, but helpful role in enabling him to do just that.
    Last edited by SCI_OTR; 19 Jun 2008, 11:57 PM.


    #2
    Awesome looking chair...and I am glad he has such a positive attitude. I wish he did not have to go through what he went through, but his attitude speaks volumes about the kind of guy he is.
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot nothing's going to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss

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      #3
      nice chair! my next chair gonna be a ti lite fer sure
      I've got 99 problems but the wheelchair ain't 1

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        #4
        26" wheels?

        Hi SCI_OTR,

        Those are close to the specs for my chair, which is a 16x18, 85° ZRa. Why did you go with 26" (590) wheels? I am 6'6" tall and am using 25" (559) wheels, but I keep wondering about the advantages of using bigger wheels.

        Steve

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          #5
          It does look nice butt i hate the "look" of the casters compared to my 5inch froglegs softroll casters...

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            #6
            Originally posted by steeeve
            Hi SCI_OTR,

            Those are close to the specs for my chair, which is a 16x18, 85° ZRa. Why did you go with 26" (590) wheels? I am 6'6" tall and am using 25" (559) wheels, but I keep wondering about the advantages of using bigger wheels.

            Steve
            He's 6'2" and frankly there is a possibility we might end up swapping them out. I actually tried to change the order to 559's, but TiLite ended up shipping the chair over a week ahead of the projected ship date. He is able to push faster than me on flat surfaces, and his handrim access appears pretty good, but we will see whether they require too much torque on grades.

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              #7
              TiLite ZRa-c?? How can a ZR be both a "c" (custom) and "a" (adjustable)? I thought these were mutually exclusive labels. TiLite designates the ZR sereis as "ZR" (the "c" is implied) and "ZRa". But I'm sure you're right, so learn me the distinction.
              stephen@bike-on.com

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                #8
                Originally posted by stephen212
                TiLite ZRa-c?? How can a ZR be both a "c" (custom) and "a" (adjustable)? I thought these were mutually exclusive labels. TiLite designates the ZR sereis as "ZR" (the "c" is implied) and "ZRa". But I'm sure you're right, so learn me the distinction.
                ZRa = Adjustable. Tapered Front End
                ZR = Limited Adjustability. Tapered Front End
                ZRa-c = Adjustable w/ "C" Package (Tapered seat and/or "V" Front End)
                ZRc = Limited Adjustability w/ "C" Package (Tapered seat and/or "V" Front End)

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                  #9
                  Cool chair!

                  Damn, I wish my insurance would cover a titanium chair. I'd love to get that new Quickie GTi chair they have out now.

                  Jessie

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tym
                    It does look nice butt i hate the "look" of the casters compared to my 5inch froglegs softroll casters...

                    Agreed. Maybe the folks at TiLite are following this.

                    I've been spec'ing out 5x1 soft rolls because they have a feel similar to the 4x1.5 FrogLegs aluminum soft rolls on my chair when going over pavement irregularities.

                    One thing I noticed on the FrogLegs website is that they offer no less than 7 different anodized hub colors. While they cost almost $30 more than if you bought them from SportAid, those who's chairs have an anodized color package and can match their caster hubs to the other anodized parts on their chair.

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                      #11
                      And with less tyre and more wheel, they look better



                      Have i mentioned they fit the Stock Coloürs forks yet?

                      To TheTiLiters™! } {

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                        #12
                        TiLite Junkie

                        Great photos of TiLite ZRA-c. I'm on my 2nd TiLite ZR-C and love the chair. This one I got with the soft roll tires, my first experience with them and they make such a difference in the "roll". Outdoors they slurp right over bumps with no problem. I got the chair a year ago and ordered it with the tapered seat and front end. It arrived without either of these and after waiting about 5 weeks for the chair I was tempted to take it, but no way. The reason I got those features was to get closer to my transfer targets - it really makes a difference when the seat rail in front is narrower! I had the vendor send the chair back, then waited 3 more weeks for the replacement, and so glad I did. It was a mix-up in the "order confirmation" data. Be sure you keep your copy of all the specs and check them out on a new chair.
                        Recently ordered replacement back and higher side guards - over $300 total. The side guards have a bit of trim along the top that has small metal grips under it that had worn through, with metal poking out. Don't like that design.
                        I love those anti-tip bars. A fellow named Ralf Hotchkiss made a similar item, a "wheelie bar", that I tried about 40 years ago in New York City, and was able to lean back in my chair to rest in a "lazy-boy" position - great for pressure relief. I'm sure those current anti-tips wouldn't let you do that.
                        Anyway, great chair and thanks for showing it.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by triumph
                          The side guards have a bit of trim along the top that has small metal grips under it that had worn through, with metal poking out. Don't like that design.
                          They are also a dirt magnet. I tried to remove mine for cleaning a few weeks ago and discovered they use a couple drops of a strong adhesive at a few key spots. It's just enough so that if you try to remove the edge trim, they will probably be damaged just enough so that they'll never fit the same. I ended up using automobile door edge trim from WalMart along the top edge. It actually gives them a cleaner look, but the trim does not have the flexibility to bend around the bottom corners and edge. I tighten down my clamps to fix my sideguards in place, so it's no biggie for me. If I was routinely removing them, those exposed edges might cause a problem.

                          While they are not perfect, I'll take them over Invacare's and Quickie plastic rigid side guards any day.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SCI_OTR
                            They are also a dirt magnet. I tried to remove mine for cleaning a few weeks ago and discovered they use a couple drops of a strong adhesive at a few key spots. It's just enough so that if you try to remove the edge trim, they will probably be damaged just enough so that they'll never fit the same. I ended up using automobile door edge trim from WalMart along the top edge. It actually gives them a cleaner look, but the trim does not have the flexibility to bend around the bottom corners and edge. I tighten down my clamps to fix my sideguards in place, so it's no biggie for me. If I was routinely removing them, those exposed edges might cause a problem.

                            While they are not perfect, I'll take them over Invacare's and Quickie plastic rigid side guards any day.
                            The edge trim used by ADI (e.g., the Roho JetStream Pro) is far superior to the trim used by TiLite for all the reasons SCI_OTR points out. It's much less bulky and can be easily fit around corners.
                            stephen@bike-on.com

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                              #15
                              Cool pic Tym. I like the look of the 5" froggies.

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