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    #46
    Originally posted by Tiger Racing
    There's no need to exaggerate or ridicule. All Reeve, or anyone else being publically interviewed, needs to do is say that they aren't speaking for everyone. Hel, I do that when I am speaking to people one-on-one, let alone when I am on camera or interviewed for something that's going to be in print. I make a point of noting that my situation (low level para with excellent financial and community support) can't be compared to that of, say, a vent dependent quad that is stuck in a nursing home. It's not that hard to do. OTOH, some people use "we" and "us" quite liberally in their speech and make a great many generalizations. I wouldn't find that appropriate even if I happened to agree with the speaker.

    C.
    Hyperbole, but it was def. not an attempt to ridicule. I thought it was funny. I see so many people speak for different causes, it does happen daily on TV, and rarely is a qualifier offered up. I just assume that if somebody is campaigning for any reason, there will be dissent of some sort, and somebody feeling un-represented.

    I wasn't yet injured when CR got hurt, so didn't take anything he said at all personally. Obvs, I can't share your perspective on that front. I believe that this is how you felt. I don't claim to understand why.

    John Hockenberry speaks on behalf of increased funding for rehabs, very important. He doesn't explain, when I've seen him speaking publicly, that he doesn't speak for all of us. He does say it in private conversation, just as he explains why cure research has never been his primary goal. Most other paralysis issue speakers I've seen have spoken at cure-related events so I won't consider them.

    I'm trying to think. Mental health advocates, no-kill animal shelters, radical Democrats, Meryl Streep opposing pesticides, gay marriage advocates, none of them offer such a disclaimer, to my recollection. The radical AIDS activists knew they were to extreme to be representing the mainstream AIDS patient, I'm sure.

    CR was just on a mission. He made a lot of people mad. The way I see it, he didn't set out to represent us. He wound up in a wheelchair, so he represented himself. It so happened that his fame made those efforts very public. It may be that his "we" indicated his organization, I don't know.

    What I hate is when the uneducated or camera hounds purport to speak for me. Even (or especially) when they share my goal, I hate that.

    I'm sure we'll never agree on CR, as we see it from different positions. I'm not doubting the validity of your feelings on the matter. They were obviously valid from your stance.
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      #47
      Originally posted by Tiger Racing
      The gods roll the dice on whether any particular SCI is going to cause long lasting damage.
      C.
      Tiger Racing, Just to clarify something:
      You believe the reason that Kevin recovered was 'cause (as you say) the gods rolled the dice and vuala, Kevin recovered.....?
      wow!

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        #48
        Originally posted by vito
        You believe the reason that Kevin recovered was 'cause (as you say) the gods rolled the dice and vuala, Kevin recovered.....?
        I believe that pure chance was a major factor. Some people are luckier than others on their unluckiest day. Everett got the best medical care possible, but he was also lucky that his particular injury didn't cause more initial damage. He was also in spectacularly good health and possibly has better genetics than some and his body may heal better than most.

        C.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Tiger Racing
          I believe that pure chance was a major factor. Some people are luckier than others on their unluckiest day. Everett got the best medical care possible, but he was also lucky that his particular injury didn't cause more initial damage. He was also in spectacularly good health and possibly has better genetics than some and his body may heal better than most.

          C.
          i think we should find out more about his injury before sayin this kinda stuff. just lookin at his xray it looks like a very serious break with lots of potential damage, but it would be nice to know more to be sure one way or another.
          "ELE" ~ Jackie Moon

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            #50
            Originally posted by Tiger Racing
            Everett got the best medical care possible, but he was also lucky that his particular injury didn't cause more initial damage.
            C.
            That's what I was saying in my post #1 that he got the best medical care possible (cooling saline and steroids) and therefore no secondary injury which equals recovery, but not god miracle.
            Don't forget that what was applied to him is the result of long scientific research/results, which aint got nothing to do with god (that's what I meant he should at least say in his interviews or talk shows like Oprah). The truth.
            30 years ago such studies/results were not available, would he still have said "God worked a miracle for me" 30 years ago? Many peeps here havn't.
            My point is he should credit the science and the right people, not saying some nonsense! And if he doesn't know that, then he needs to wake up.

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              #51
              Originally posted by vito
              That's what I was saying in my post #1 that he got the medical care possible (cooling saline and steroids) and therefore no secondary injury which equals recovery.
              Don't forget that what was applied to him is the result of long scientific research/results, which aint got nothing to do with god (that's what I meant he should at least say in his interviews or talk shows like Oprah). The truth.
              30 years ago such studies/results were not available, would he still have said "God worked a miracle for me"?
              My point is he should credit the science and the right people, not saying some nonsense! And if he doesn't that, then he needs to wake up.
              Dr. Cappucino was interviewed on the Oprah show Vito. Did you even watch it? Below is a portion of it. I don't know why you keep insisting that no credit was given or mention made of the medical care he received when that isn't true.

              To reconstruct exactly what happened to Kevin, Dr. Oz goes to the scene of the injury to meet with Dr. Andrew Cappuccino—an orthopedic spinal surgeon and a Buffalo Bills team physician. He was one of the first on the field to assess Kevin's condition.

              When the team doctors were able to roll Kevin over, Dr. Cappuccino says he saw Kevin's eyes for the first time. "I saw fear. … I have six children of my own, I have four sons, and I'm looking down at this kid, and he's no older than my boys," he says. "My heart sank."

              On their way to the hospital, Dr. Cappuccino told Kevin to concentrate on breathing while he started treatment, which included a controversial procedure called "cold therapy." To keep Kevin's spinal cord alive, doctors flushed cold water through his blood in an effort to keep the swelling down.

              After getting X-rays at the hospital, Dr. Cappuccino's worst fears were proven. Kevin had suffered a fracture dislocation between the third and fourth cervical vertebrae. "This was a bad spinal problem," Dr. Cappuccino says. "I thought, statistically he was at this point by definition looking at what's called an ASIA B spinal cord injury. Statistically, there's between a 10 and 20 percent that those folks will go on to be able to walk. Not so good..."
              http://www.oprah.com/health/oz/slide..._350_104.jhtml

              The treatment he received was credited for his recovery. Cappucino was on precisely to explain Everette's injury and how/why he thought the treatment helped him. I think he did an excellent job. The purpose of the show wasn't to raise money for cure research. Everette was only 1 of several medical stories the show covered.
              Last edited by antiquity; 29 Feb 2008, 12:28 AM.

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                #52
                Originally posted by vito
                My point is he should credit the science and the right people, not saying some nonsense!
                In your first post, you claimed that Everett said things like, "I guess I was a lucky guy" and "I have been so blessed".

                I think both of those statements are absolutely correct and can't imagine why anyone would whine about them.

                C.

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