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    Another Veto.....

    Time to bash President Jackass again. We all knew he would veto the strem cell bill, but can Jan. 09 come fast enough? I have never been so sick of another pol. in my life. Ok enough bitching....

    Did anyone really expect anything different!
    "Some people say that, the longer you go the better it gets the more you get used to it, I'm actually finding the opposite is true."

    -Christopher Reeve on his Paralysis


      The Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation Expresses Disappointment Over President Bus

      The Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation Expresses Disappointment Over President Bush's Veto of the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act

      SHORT HILLS, N.J., June 20, 2007 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation (CDRF), the national, non-profit organization dedicated to finding cures and treatments for spinal cord injuries and improving the lives of people living with paralysis, today expressed strong disappointment in President Bush's veto of the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act, which would have paved the way for advancements in stem cell research with the support and oversight of the federal government

      Twice in less than one year, the President has dashed the dreams of millions of Americans living with paralysis and many other diseases and disabilities who see the potential in stem cell research and dream of a cure in their lifetime," said Peter D. Kiernan, Chairman and CEO of the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation. "As the President of the United States, President Bush is entrusted to act upon the will of the American people he represents, but his repeated failure to sign this critical legislation into law shows his inability to prevent politics from standing in the way of hope."

      Last year, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act was passed by the United States Senate, but on July 19, 2006, President Bush exercised his first veto by failing to sign the bill. The 110th Congress breathed new life into the bill by introducing the stem cell legislation early in their session. Again, the United States Senate and House of Representatives passed it by wide margins and strong bi-partisan support, and the President vetoed it.



        So what's the next move?
        I get knocked down
        But I get up again


          I can only hope what goes around,comes around!

          What ever happened to for the people,by the people? I thought it worked like this, the people say what we want, and the pres makes it happen? seems to me that as many U.S. troops he has put in a chair with his"they tried to kill my dad" war the least he could is give those brave men and women a little hope! Along with the rest of us. I find it very hard to think when I even give that goofball a second thought. I wonder what it is like to know that you have drove a country into the ground all by yourself?


            In case the forum members were not aware, Bush's approval rating is less than 30%.

            Historians and scholars are already stating he is the worst president of all time.

            Hope some day he needs some type of stem cell therapy.


              Originally posted by Schmeky
              In case the forum members were not aware, Bush's approval rating is less than 30%.

              Historians and scholars are already stating he is the worst president of all time.

              Hope some day he needs some type of stem cell therapy.
              soon smecky ...i never been to AFRICA but i will use my voodoo skils .booooooooooohooooo
              i became a saint after my injury.
              no sex only and torture.
              Last edited by adi chicago; 20 Jun 2007, 8:48 PM.


                578 days to go. Bob


                  Originally posted by handibob
                  578 days to go. Bob
                  Still a long time..........


                    Last edited by westcoast_gc; 23 Jun 2007, 7:39 AM.
                    Sometimes the lights all shinin on me; Other times I can barely see. Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip its been: The Grateful Dead


                      adi chicago

                      hi, i'm from africa and i'll place all the vodoo i can on bush. he is the reason the world views america negatively.
                      i've often wondered what would happen if one of his daughters got sci... but i guess we all know.
                      "just because you can't see a road,
                      doesn't mean it is not there"
                      - captain morgan add


                        Start the RUDY chant :-)~

                        I like Rudy. He's not afraid to call it the way he sees it. It is nice to finally see a republican that doesn't want to force his religion or beliefs on an entire country.


                          whats Ron Paul's view on escr?


                            Originally posted by cluskey007
                            whats Ron Paul's view on escr?
                            This was his view after the first passage of the vote.


                            Missing the Point: Federal Funding of Stem Cell Research

                            by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

                            Medical and scientific ethics issues are in the news again, as Congress narrowly passed a bill last week that funds controversial embryonic stem cell research. While I certainly sympathize with those who understandably hope such research will lead to cures for terrible diseases, I object to forcing taxpayers who believe harvesting embryos is immoral to pay for it.

                            Congressional Republicans, eager to appease pro-life voters while still appearing suitably compassionate, supported a second bill that provides nearly $80 million for umbilical cord stem cell research. But it’s never compassionate to spend other people’s money for political benefit.

                            The issue is not whether the federal government should fund one type of stem cell research or another. The issue is whether the federal government should fund stem cell research at all. Clearly there is no constitutional authority for Congress to do so, which means individual states and private citizens should decide whether to permit, ban, or fund it. Neither party in Washington can fathom that millions and millions of Americans simply don’t want their tax dollars spent on government research of any kind. This viewpoint is never considered.

                            Federal funding of medical research guarantees the politicization of decisions about what types of research for what diseases will be funded. Scarce tax resources are allocated according to who has the most effective lobby, rather than on the basis of need or even likely success. Federal funding also causes researchers to neglect potential treatments and cures that do not qualify for federal funds. Medical advancements often result from radical ideas and approaches that are scoffed at initially by the establishment. When scientists become dependent on government funds, however, they quickly learn not to rock the boat and stick to accepted areas of inquiry. Federal funds thus distort the natural market for scientific research.

                            The debate over stem cell research involves profound moral, religious, and ethical question – questions Congress is particularly ill equipped to resolve. The injustice of forcing taxpayers to fund research some find ethically abhorrent is patently obvious. When we insist on imposing one-size-fits-all social policies determined in Washington, we invariably make millions of Americans very angry. Again, the constitutional approach to resolving social issues involves local, decentralized decision-making. This approach is not perfect, but it is much better than pretending Congress possesses the magical wisdom to serve as the nation’s moral arbiter. Decentralized decisions and privatized funding would eliminate much of the ill will between supporters and opponents of stem cell research.

                            Government cannot instill morality in the American people. On the contrary, rigid, centralized, government decision-making is indicative of an apathetic and immoral society. The greatest casualty of centralized government decision-making is personal liberty.

                            May 31, 2005

                            Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.


                              Ron Paul's view is such a cleverly worded puzzle of circular thinking. The rhetoric deceives us into thinking that a centralized government has a moral obligation to not be responsibe about national healthcare issues.

                              The NIH is the jewel in the crown of US (The world) healthcare infrastructure. To delay stem cell research, including the regulated use of ESCs, is a failure of leadership.

                              The president and Ron Paul contend that federal funds should not be used for research resulting in the death of human embryos. Yet, how does that ethical position balance with federal funding of atrocities in Iraq?

                              These guys are so full of BS.

                              "Hope is like a road in the country; there was never a road, but when many people walk on it, the road comes into existence." Lin Yutang