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    #16
    Another misleading story in attempt to secure grant money. Injecting stem cells in the lumbar region to repair cervical damage??? Come on now... I strongly believe this man would be in exactly the same condition after 96 weeks of exercise therapy without the stem cells.
    Last edited by smity50; 28 Nov 2019, 12:00 PM.

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      #17
      Originally posted by smity50 View Post
      Another misleading story in attempt to secure grant money. Injecting stem cells in the lumbar region to repair cervical damage??? Come on now... I strongly believe this man would be in exactly the same condition after 96 weeks of exercise therapy without the stem cells.
      I tend to agree. They even admitted that two other people had no results at all and a few others had very moderate results.

      Since they are taking people fairly acute, who knows what kind of recovery they would have had on their own? Especially someone who was an Asia C to begin with...

      That said though, it's too soon to be completely cynical.
      Normally the Mayo Clinic would not put their name on something that was complete BS.

      And maybe the more incomplete someone is the more of a boost it can be for recovery. After all, this guy was not walking around like an Asia C.. so maybe it did give him some benefits he would not have realized on his own.

      We just don't know. But I am very skeptical as well

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        #18
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          #19
          Watch this!

          Was Will Reeve paid to be on GMA to talk about this? I have more questions than answers about that segment.

          Watch this!



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            #20
            Originally posted by Mitchitsu View Post
            If you watch the video and read the articles, it very clearly states the guys injury what is C3 - Asia C.
            They did say that he was originally diagnosed as Asia A but very shortly after began getting some movement and feeling back.... so he was Asia C before the trial and obviously Asia D (really Asia D++) after the trial.

            He started about 1 year post injury and these results shown are at about 3 years post injury.

            Look... there are definitely some things to be skeptical about here. For instance their claim that he plateaued after 6 months. That is silly. Anybody that is getting movement back and going from no movement to an Asia C over the first few months ISNT going to Plateau completely at 6 months. With hard work he could have been improving over the next few years or longer... most Asia C injuries can walk to some extent.

            They also showed very little about his hands. I'm not sure how debilitated they were. They were hardly mentioned.

            So while our group absolutely knows much more about the reality of these injuries than the General Public and have much more to be skeptical about, on some level there are some things to be very hopeful about here.

            I just wish they would show more about people's functions before the trial. Instead of showing him on a standing frame with a neck brace on which we all know means nothing 6 months later...

            Show him ambulating with a walker. Or on a treadmill. So we can compare what was really going on pre-trial
            But I guess that does not make for as compelling a news story...
            Yep, a lot to be skeptical about here. Here on CC we have seen news like this many times...

            He was already walking 6 months after SCI, from the paper: "
            baseline, he was able to walk 635 ft for 12.8minutes at a pace of 0.25 m/s, whichimproved to 2200 ft for 34 minutes at apace of 0.33 m/s at 15 months"

            https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.or...871-7/fulltext

            Paolo
            In God we trust; all others bring data. - Edwards Deming

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              #21
              I can remember the Doctors coming in everyday at the U of M and said if I could move my toes in 2 weeks I would walk again. That was over 44 years ago. After 2 weeks Doctors said I never walk again. I had a 2 inch bruise of my spinal cord at T12. He said if it was only 1 and 1/2 inch I would walk again. I got so many different answers in 1975. I really think after 6 mouths it is what it is. Forgot to mention I was Asia A. Asia C on down I could see more recovery.
              Last edited by Art454; 28 Nov 2019, 10:02 PM.
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                #22
                So, this appears to be for someone with an acute injury, 1 yr or less, correct? Were these MSCs (Mesenchymal Stem Cells) that were used in the surgery? Because I was under the impression they were not that effective in lab rats.

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                  #23
                  Is there any researcher who tried combining different types of stem cells? Any contraindication for giving all these cells people are talking about at the same time?

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                    #24
                    One thing that definitely sucks about SCI are the number of articles friends send with the latest cures.
                    They must be like "man, that Mize is a lazy spit! I keep sending him the cures but he doesn't do them!"
                    T3 complete since Sept 2015.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mize View Post
                      One thing that definitely sucks about SCI are the number of articles friends send with the latest cures.
                      They must be like "man, that Mize is a lazy spit! I keep sending him the cures but he doesn't do them!"

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mize View Post
                        One thing that definitely sucks about SCI are the number of articles friends send with the latest cures.
                        They must be like "man, that Mize is a lazy spit! I keep sending him the cures but he doesn't do them!"
                        This is the problem. Imagine your a rich person looking to make a charitable contribution to a cause. You see a story like this and think they already found a cure and decide to donate your money to a different cause.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mize View Post
                          One thing that definitely sucks about SCI are the number of articles friends send with the latest cures.
                          They must be like "man, that Mize is a lazy spit! I keep sending him the cures but he doesn't do them!"
                          Yep. You just gotta want it bad enough. Didnt you get the memo?!?! Grit and determination are all it takes!
                          "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

                          "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Oddity View Post
                            Yep. You just gotta want it bad enough. Didnt you get the memo?!?! Grit and determination are all it takes!
                            Either that or nine years of gabapentin, right?
                            T3 complete since Sept 2015.

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                              #29
                              I hadn't heard that one yet. Wow, I need to get on that.
                              "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

                              "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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                                #30
                                You're slipping!
                                Just last week researchers at USC published a study linking a 30% improvement in forelimb recovery after SCI by way of long-term gabapentin usage.
                                That's right, mice given gabapentin for 4 months after SCI (equivalent of 9 years to a human - who knew?) regained more "hand" function. Apparently they could grasp but their cursive still sucked.
                                T3 complete since Sept 2015.

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