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  • #16
    I'm pretty sure Santa didn't bring us a cure because Baby Jesus hates us.
    "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Fly_Pelican_Fly View Post
      Take a look at the chronic animal data and then ask the question again......

      Link please
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      • #18
        Originally posted by lunasicc42 View Post
        Link please
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        • #19
          Fly you mean Renetx has no results in their animal trials? I think they have good results....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by FellowHawkeye View Post
            Fly you mean Renetx has no results in their animal trials? I think they have good results....
            Chronic injury animal model? Show us.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by FellowHawkeye View Post
              Fly you mean Renetx has no results in their animal trials? I think they have good results....
              I couldn't find any specific scientific documentation about Renetx and chronic animal studies either.... Which is what I think Pelican is alluding to

              There is suppose to be this that I got from the renetx website but the link is error 404.... Can any of the carecure sleuths track it down

              https://medicine.yale.edu/pet/resear...ol-SCI_rat.pdf
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              • #22
                this is the page that I tried to get the dead link above from

                https://www.renetx.com/publications.html
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                • #23
                  This is the one that ReNetX reference in their funding materials:
                  Chronic SCI Contusion - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3238798/

                  There are a ton of others, but they relate to Acute and Sub-Acute research.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by niallel View Post
                    This is the one that ReNetX reference in their funding materials:
                    Chronic SCI Contusion - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3238798/

                    There are a ton of others, but they relate to Acute and Sub-Acute research.
                    Pelican... Thoughts
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lunasicc42 View Post
                      Pelican... Thoughts
                      what did you think?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fly_Pelican_Fly View Post
                        what did you think?
                        I think it suffices as the very justification to proceed with human trials as you appear to be looking for... Is it? Do you not agree?
                        Thoughts...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lunasicc42 View Post
                          I think it suffices as the very justification to proceed with human trials as you appear to be looking for... Is it? Do you not agree?
                          Thoughts...
                          What were the improvements in the rats? What severity was the animal injury?

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                          • #28
                            I gave it the old college try but I admit I am not well versed at comprehending scientific papers... At some points it sounded sweet, then there was another part that confused me... Something about 10 of 35 rats... Not statistically significant something... But like I said... Not well versed, I stick to mostly relying on the flashy titles or headlines
                            "That's not smog! It's SMUG!! " - randy marsh, southpark

                            "what???? , you don't 'all' wear a poop sac?.... DAMNIT BONNIE, YOU LIED TO ME ABOUT THE POOP SAC!!!! "


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by lunasicc42 View Post
                              I gave it the old college try but I admit I am not well versed at comprehending scientific papers... At some points it sounded sweet, then there was another part that confused me... Something about 10 of 35 rats... Not statistically significant something... But like I said... Not well versed, I stick to mostly relying on the flashy titles or headlines
                              Perhaps one of the scientists that read/post here could comment in lay persons language?

                              My only advice is to ask what happened to the Novartis Nogo and Cethrin clinical trials and ask how this science is any different. You might then figure out why the major sci foundations (apart from W4L) aren’t falling over themselves about it.

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                              • #30
                                Flashback 1972, "there will probably be a cure for SCI in 5 years".
                                "It is every man's obligation to put back into the world at least the equivalent of what he takes out of it. Try not to become a man of success but rather try to become a man of value." - Albert Einstein

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