Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Paralysed patients regain voluntary movement with spinal stimulation

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #31
    Originally posted by #LHB# View Post
    So wouldn't this already be FDA approved? Aren't there a lot of these devices already in people for pain and whatnot.
    No, each new device has to have it's own FDA approval before it's put on the market for public use. There are currently devices being used for pain such as the one Harkema has been using in her IRB made by Medtronic and it only controls one leg at a time.
    Last edited by GRAMMY; 8 Apr 2014, 10:49 PM.
    http://spinalcordresearchandadvocacy.wordpress.com/

    Comment


      #32
      Originally posted by Nowhere Man View Post
      The kid in the interview was most likely one of the already incompletes in the study.
      I'm not sure exactly who was in that particular interview, but I'm thinking it was Dustin Shillcox which is motor complete. Here's a better write up on him.
      http://spectrum.ieee.org/biomedical/...atients-moving
      http://spinalcordresearchandadvocacy.wordpress.com/

      Comment


        #33
        Originally posted by GRAMMY View Post
        Reggie Edgerton's group has developed a much more sophisticated 27 electrode array as opposed to the current 16 electrode from Medtronic used for pain. They're hoping their transcutaneous unit for mild to moderate injuries is ready first for clinical trial before the subcutaneous one requiring surgery. The transcutaneous clinical trial is listed but they're not recruiting yet according to the trial information.
        Is this work comparable at all to Milan Dimitrijevic's research with epidural stim back in 1979?

        Comment


          #34
          As dr. bacon pointed out what makes this so important is this could turn a minor regenerative treatment into a major improvement on quality of life. My opinion this is huge, we know that minor regeneration of the spinal cord is possible and we can do it today, in animal models. (also there were minor improvements in stem cell Inc. and think about what Dr. Young has done, if what he says is true, which I have no doubt about that, clearly there is regeneration involved) If a spinal stem unit is commercialized, and you were lucky enough to get in a regenerative clinical trial, followed with intense daily locomotor physiotherapy, good nutrition I believe you would see pretty substantial recovery.

          Comment


            #35
            On the publicity side of things, I heard it this morning on the news, again in the afternoon as well as on television. Plus it's all over Facebook. I mean look at the attention it's got on this forum alone in one day.

            Comment


              #36
              Originally posted by PaidMyDues View Post
              Is this work comparable at all to Milan Dimitrijevic's research with epidural stim back in 1979?
              I can't say I remember reading through the Dimitrijevic publications listed here. https://www.bcm.edu/departments/phys...ion/?pmid=5464

              He's not part of the Edgerton team listed here... http://neurorecoverytechnologies.com/team.html
              http://spinalcordresearchandadvocacy.wordpress.com/

              Comment


                #37
                Within how much time this therapy can be public? Can this work for every kind of spinal injury?

                Comment


                  #38
                  Originally posted by GRAMMY View Post
                  I can't say I remember reading through the Dimitrijevic publications listed here. https://www.bcm.edu/departments/phys...ion/?pmid=5464

                  He's not part of the Edgerton team listed here... http://neurorecoverytechnologies.com/team.html
                  Thank you, Grammy. The 1st link doesn't work.

                  Comment


                    #39
                    Originally posted by PaidMyDues View Post
                    Thank you, Grammy. The 1st link doesn't work.
                    Oh my goodness, I apologize about that! The link worked a bit ago and then when I went back to it I had to go into a cached copy. Here's a pdf file by Milan Dimitrijevic instead. I see that Yuri Gerasimenko is here. Yuri is working on the Edgerton translation team.

                    http://neurosci.info/courses/systems...mitrijevic.pdf
                    http://spinalcordresearchandadvocacy.wordpress.com/

                    Comment


                      #40
                      finally some type of future for spinal cord injured... never going to see a cure till the day comes when it can be profitable
                      this device may make that possible.. any idea on when this will be available to the public..?
                      I didn't get to read all the other post.... i see major sci i centers chopping at the bit to get their hands on this.. means more profit for them and some type of future for us...we the people who deal with paralysis daily..

                      Comment


                        #41
                        I can only imagine how much this thing is gonna cost when made available, probably like 200 grand or so or more. Wonder if Insurance will cover it? Probably not. Being that all kinds of implants are done like this for pain I'd think FDA would move along fairly fast especially given our situations? I would think if this works as good as is said there could be a lot of fundraisers to raise the necessary money for people in need to have this done. I just hope the people in control of this technology don't try to take advantage and way overcharge for this. I am hoping to see some kindness in human spirit so we can all take advantage of this and live better and more healthy lives than we are currently living. Can you imagine even the reduction of pressure sores and UTI's in gaining back some movement? Increase in bowel and bladder control would be huge also. It would make us a lot more healthy.

                        Amazing that this sort of thing had been tried before with no meaningful results and that as it turns out they were simply hitting the spinal cord up with too much electricity. The nervous system is a delicate thing and as was proven in the results of these experiments just a small 10 volt signal with very low current and low frequency was all that was needed to make things happen. Call me crazy but in reading all the docs, I'm a believer in this technology. Now I kick myself for not having gone to medical school to become a researcher. I knew all along that between Electrical stim and maybe magnetism the spinal cord would respond. When I was first injured I was rolling around the hospital in my wheelchair with magnets duct taped to my back around the injury site in hopes it would help out, that was 1981. What has been proven here in these experiments makes perfect sense to me. Gonna be real interesting if this works in a injury of over 30 years like me. I can't even begin to imagine voluntarily moving a leg after so long, but from the sound of it, it could happen. I still have a huge amount of spasticity and do FES training every other day, although I think my knees are blown out pretty good at this point so may need em replaced if I'm to walk again.

                        Hopefully Dr. Young will chime in on this thread. I'd think this would be a natural for combination therapies.
                        Last edited by Curt Leatherbee; 9 Apr 2014, 9:42 AM.
                        "Life is about how you
                        respond to not only the
                        challenges you're dealt but
                        the challenges you seek...If
                        you have no goals, no
                        mountains to climb, your
                        soul dies".~Liz Fordred

                        Comment


                          #42
                          i'm sure it will be costly and have to have some maintenance cost .. this makes it profitable and at least something available to help cope with daily sci life.. other then a wheelchair...

                          Comment


                            #43
                            I know many of us have got caught up in previous news and studies only to be let down, but this excites me. It appears that even in its current state it could have a significant positive impact on our lives and health.
                            C5 injury with partial C6 function on left.

                            Comment


                              #44
                              I just bought some stock in Medtronics, if nothing else looks like a pretty good company with a decent dividend. They are the ones who might have commercial rights to this device is my understanding. I think there is a real future for this type of technology not just in SCI but many other things.
                              "Life is about how you
                              respond to not only the
                              challenges you're dealt but
                              the challenges you seek...If
                              you have no goals, no
                              mountains to climb, your
                              soul dies".~Liz Fordred

                              Comment


                                #45
                                I know I'm jumping the gun here, but any chance this is fast tracked? The device is already proven safe. I'd volunteer tomorrow

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X