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    Hey, just a thought. Sorry if this is not the place for it but....

    If you could cure and reconect the spinal cord dose this mean you could theoreticaly get a head transplat??

    And if you did which person would you become?

    Hmmm, the mind boggles ! [img]/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif[/img]

    Marcel

    [This message was edited by M Welschbillig on Jul 18, 2002 at 04:06 AM.]
    Marcel

  • #2
    Ted Williams! sorry I couldn't pass that one up. It was too easy

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    • #3
      Clearly

      there would be a risk of the body rejecting the brain.
      I actually don't think that this is a new problem - I know several people myself who seem to be suffering from it already!

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      • #4
        m w

        When I was in Taiwan, one of Cheng's assitants told us about attempts right now by the Chinese to transplant a chimp's head. Long story short, he was quite confident that such a procedure will be do-able in the very near future, and that there will be various practical applications. Kinda scary, but this doc was convinced it's a grand idea.

        vgrafen
        vgrafen

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        • #5
          Dr. Young mentioned a couple of years ago about a doctor, I believe in Russia, who wanted to transplant A body (from someone who was brain-dead) onto a head. I believe he actually had a link at that time. Strangest thing I have ever heard. This guy was actually looking for volunteers from what I remember.

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          • #6
            DO you think??

            I could become a blonde??? Oh I suppose there are easier ways....

            Mary
            1FineSpineRN

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            • #7
              New meaning

              This could give new meaning to the idea of a sex change--no more sylicone And what about differnt animal bodies??? hmmmm
              "No mother on either side could say that whatever was won was worth my son"--Steve Mason

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mary:

                I could become a blonde??? Oh I suppose there are easier ways....

                Mary
                ummm... well... The hair color goes with the head. So...

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                • #9
                  Vgrafen:

                  I am very intrigued by the idea... I am also convinced that in our lifetime it will be possible to do this. That doesn't mean you can legally do it or that it will ever be a safe & FDA approved procedure. Just that it CAN be done.

                  I, for one, would DEFINITELY do this. Even after we recover sufficiently from SCI to get out of our wheelchairs, we will never be exactly the same again. Imagine being a 60 year old man and getting a second chance at life by getting a 25 year old healthy body. Watch out Hugh Heffner, & hide your daughters cause I'm back!

                  How would you go about reconnecting a brain to a new spinal cord though?
                  "Oh yeah life goes on
                  Long after the thrill of livin is gone"

                  John Cougar Mellencamp

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                  • #10
                    Friday, 6 April, 2001, 10:59 GMT 11:59 UK
                    Frankenstein fears after head transplant

                    A new brain could be available in the future

                    A controversial operation to transplant the whole head of a monkey onto a different body has proved a partial success.

                    The scientist behind it wants to do the same thing to humans, but other members of the scientific community have condemned the experiments as "grotesque".

                    Professor Robert White, from Cleveland Ohio, transplanted a whole monkey's head onto another monkey's body, and the animal survived for some time after the operation.

                    The professor told the BBC's Today programme how he believes the operation is the next step in the transplant world.

                    And he raised the possibility that it could be used to treat people paralysed and unable to use their limbs, and whose bodies, rather than their brains, were diseased.


                    This is medical technology run completely mad

                    Professor Stephen Rose,

                    Open University "People are dying today who, if they had body transplants, in the spinal injury community would remain alive."

                    He said that in the experiment, his team had been able to: "transplant the brain as a separate organ into an intact animal and maintain it in a viable, or living situation for many days."

                    He added: "We've been able to retain the brain in the skull, and in the head."
                    That, he said meant the monkey was conscious, and that it could see, hear, taste and smell because the nerves were left intact in the head.

                    He admitted that it could appear "grotesque", but said there had been ethical considerations throughout the history of organ transplants.

                    "At each stage - kidney, heart, liver and so forth - ethical considerations have been considered, especially with the heart, which was a major, major problem for many people and scientists.

                    "And the brain, because of its uniqueness poses a major, major ethical issue as far as the public and even the profession is concerned."

                    'Scientifically misleading'

                    The arguments against head and brain transplants were outlined by Dr Stephen Rose, director of brain and behavioural research at the Open University.

                    He said: "This is medical technology run completely mad and out of all proportion to what's needed.

                    "It's entirely misleading to suggest that a head transplant or a brain transplant is actually really still connected in anything except in terms of blood stream to the body to which it has been transplanted.

                    "It's not controlling or relating to that body in any other sort of way."

                    He added: "It's scientifically misleading, technically irrelevant and scientifically irrelevant, and apart from anything else a grotesque breach of any ethical consideration."

                    "It's a mystification to call it either a head transplant or a brain transplant.
                    "All you're doing is keeping a severed head alive in terms of the circulation from another animal. It's not connected in any nervous sense."

                    The issue of who someone who had received a head transplant would "be" is extremely complicated, said Professor Rose.

                    "Your person is largely embodied but not entirely in your brain".

                    He added: "I cannot see any medical grounds for doing this. I cannot see that scientifically you would actually be able to regenerate the nerves which could produce that sort of control.

                    "And I think that the experiments are the sort that are wholly unethical and inappropriate for any possible reason."

                    He added that the way to help the quadriplegic community was to work on research to help spinal nerves regenerate.

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                    • #11
                      You know, Mike...

                      After the mind finishes reeling from the initial shock of the idea, you have to admit there are certain intriguing aspects to re-fitting your head/spinal cord on to a newer frame. The mere possibility, as you say, that it can be done, and that serious people are devoting serious energy and resources to it, is quite informing.

                      Imagine growing new and disease-free body frames, and being able to order them up when necessary, and to your specs; certainly one approach to immortality. True enough, the argument of cheating the natural cycle of living and dying comes into play here, and if you're a spiritualist, you'll no doubt insist on being content with the present incarnation and fulfilling your karma and moving on naturally, but those unencumbered by any such high falootin' concerns, the temptation to re-fit, once it's available to the mass on a regular basis, will be undeniable.

                      I foresee this beast being the ultimate addiction: what won't you pay to get a new body frame when the old one is on Death's door? And where will any ethical argument weigh in when you're faced with such an either/or, and you have the resources to acquire it?

                      What doors we are now opening upon ourselves. Yet are these the very portals to Hell itself, which ought not ever be opened?

                      vgrafen
                      vgrafen

                      My book, 'Scouring the globe for a cure: a disabled man's experiences with stem cell treatment' is available at Booklocker at the following address:

                      www.booklocker.com/books/2857.html

                      A percentage of every sale goes to CareCure.

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                      • #12
                        You guys are way behind. This was done years ago in the movie "10" to Bo Derek, where she ran along the beach. I wonder how she's doing now, as usual you never get any real follow-up on anything.

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                        • #13
                          In my opinion, the possibility to reconnect the SNC will become current the transpante of eyes.

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                          • #14
                            Bo Derek??

                            You lost me there... [img]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/img]

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                            • #15
                              Seneca, good for you bringing back that article. I was thinking the same thing.


                              On a slightly different subject, besides a head transplant how do we cure: cranialrectalmylasia?

                              What is cranialrectalmylasia?

                              A: Having one's head up his/her own ass [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]


                              I couldn't pass that one up. [img]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

                              Onward and Upward!

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