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    Congrats to Dr. Xiao, he appeared on the Chinse national TV's prime time, but,

    no engles
    C5/C6 Complete since 08/22/09

    #2
    Article in English

    From the China Digital Times -

    Controversial Doctor Detained in Fang Zhouzi Case

    China’s Scientific & Academic Integrity Watch reports (h/t Danwei) that an arrest has been made in the attack against scientific fraud investigator Fang Shimin, otherwise known as Fang Zhouzi:
    Beijing Police Bureau announced last night that they have cracked the case of Fang Zhouzi’s assault. They identified Xiao Chuanguo, the professor who pioneered the controversial “Xiao’s Procedure” and a long-time target of Fang Zhouzi’s fraud exposure, as the mastermind behind the attack. Xiao Chuanguo and four other suspects are currently detained by the police.
    Police also said that they had uncovered iron hammers and steel pipes, tools that were used in separate previous attacks on Fang Zhouzi and Fang Xuanchang.
    "Our lives begin to end the day
    we become silent about things that matter."
    - Martin Luther King Jr

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      #3
      Originally posted by IMHopeful View Post
      From the China Digital Times -

      Controversial Doctor Detained in Fang Zhouzi Case

      China’s Scientific & Academic Integrity Watch reports (h/t Danwei) that an arrest has been made in the attack against scientific fraud investigator Fang Shimin, otherwise known as Fang Zhouzi:
      Beijing Police Bureau announced last night that they have cracked the case of Fang Zhouzi’s assault. They identified Xiao Chuanguo, the professor who pioneered the controversial “Xiao’s Procedure” and a long-time target of Fang Zhouzi’s fraud exposure, as the mastermind behind the attack. Xiao Chuanguo and four other suspects are currently detained by the police.
      Police also said that they had uncovered iron hammers and steel pipes, tools that were used in separate previous attacks on Fang Zhouzi and Fang Xuanchang.

      is this the same doctor that is posting here?

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        #4
        Originally posted by manouli View Post
        is this the same doctor that is posting here?
        lol yea
        C5/C6 Complete since 08/22/09

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          #5
          China is a communist country and I don't expect that police, justice or media to be independent or fair.

          I'm still waiting for the beaumount trial results.
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            #6
            Originally posted by cypresss View Post
            China is a communist country and I don't expect that police, justice or media to be independent or fair.

            I'm still waiting for the beaumount trial results.
            as a chinese i complete agree with you

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              #7
              Originally posted by cypresss View Post
              I'm still waiting for the beaumount trial results.
              http://xysblogs.org/wp-content/blogs...2010peters.pdf
              Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

              T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

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                #8
                Originally posted by xysergroup
                unfortunately, we bet he will not have the opportunity to watch this video, neighther will he visit this forum, for a very very long time.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ba6rnf2Ks4
                hmmmm don't mean to be rude but could someone please translate this to english sorry but my chineese lingistics don't exists

                sorry about this

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CAS View Post
                  hmmmm don't mean to be rude but could someone please translate this to english sorry but my chineese lingistics don't exists

                  sorry about this
                  ching chong
                  C5/C6 Complete since 08/22/09

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                    #10
                    I sent this to CBS 60 Minutes; I encourage everyone else to as well.
                    Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

                    T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by xysergroup
                      Beaumont only reported spina bifida patients. "The three with spinal cord injuries were not helped by the procedure", according to the media.
                      Results for SCI patients outside China can be found here:
                      https://www.carecure.net/forum/showthread.php?t=132462
                      or, with update:
                      http://xysblogs.org/xysergroup/archives/7169
                      Xiao Chuanguo's presentation at the 30th Congress of SIU (SIU 2009):
                      xysergroup, I don't think is fair to take out or context a presentation slide and post it here. Why don't you specify the full source of that presentation? All the links are to your personal webpage or threads started by you. Please be fair and give us the original wepage/source links.

                      TY and pls stop spending our time
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by cypresss View Post
                        China is a communist country and I don't expect that police, justice or media to be independent or fair.

                        I'm still waiting for the beaumount trial results.
                        Im not sure what communism has anything to do with it (btw, having been to china, it's not a REAL communist country). When are the police, justice or media fair here in the States? pfftt. How many riots have their bs caused in the last couple of decades...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Imight View Post
                          Im not sure what communism has anything to do with it (btw, having been to china, it's not a REAL communist country). When are the police, justice or media fair here in the States? pfftt. How many riots have their bs caused in the last couple of decades...
                          I don't wish to hurt any country or ppl, but I know what communist means. My country was a communist country officially until 1990, and now, after 20 years, we are still having problems from the old habits and institutions. Old habits die hard.

                          For example, in States, institutions have to prove that your guilty. In a communist country you have to prove that your not guilty. By default they assume every suspect is guilty and use brute force as main investigation method. I don't know anything about the xiao case, but the suspects are put in prison before the suit in very few cases.

                          Don't get me wrong, i'm not the xiao's advocate and this is my last post related to this subject. I like him because he did something for ppl with sci. We all know what b&b issues ppl with SCI/SB have. I just read the paper with beaumount results and the foot drop is a side effect, because the spinal cord anatomy on SB is not "normal".

                          ps: This post is more related to political issues than the cure. Admin sorry for off-topic.
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                            #14
                            xysergroup.

                            I think you have made your point. I know that I, (and maybe some others here) would now like to hear information from sources other than the opposition.



                            Originally posted by xysergroup
                            cypresss,

                            Do you mind to click the links we provided? then you can find dozens of links to the original full sources, for example, the link to the presentation has been listed as reference [20]:
                            [20] http://webcasts.prous.com/netadmin/w...lid=10196&pv=2

                            BTW, you may spend several days to read those full sources, whick took us several months to collect.

                            and, you may read the news from non-communist countries, for example, Science of USA, the Independent of UK, le Figaro of France, and Irish Times ...
                            And the truth shall set you free.

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                              #15
                              Dr Xaeo, why are we talking aobut him or whatever. Let's concenntrate o f real endeavors. Dr youngs trials are staqrting in 3 weeks.; Geron's trials are starting and others will follow. these are trials that hopefully will get results that will be publioshed and we will move on frpm there. Dr Xaoe or whoever is a non issue at this point in time.

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