Spinal Cord Injury Network USA (SCINetUSA)

[Jim]

Will there ever be trials for Lumbar injuries?

Our lab is working hard on lumbosacral injuries.

[lunasicc42]

I know we kept asking questions a lot about when US trials are going to start but then we got quiet and patient... But we still don't have a concrete date on when the US trials will start recruiting, when do we get that?

[Tetracyclone]

Seriously, when they know they will tell us.

[SS77]

Our lab is working hard on lumbosacral injuries.

Thanks Jim.

[lunasicc42]

Seriously, when they know they will tell us.

My fear: (unfounded but it's still there )... Is that the trial is not actually going to get off the ground despite the chatter due to lack of efficacy that we don't know about but the high-ups do and we are just being strung along Perpetually waiting for American trials to begin. The thing that would most likely Calm my fears is actual before and after videos of the patients performing physical tasks, sorry but the integaconnect paper just doesn't have me fully convinced and leaves some questions. I need to SEE it... When do we get multi-media coverage?

[Barrington314mx]

My fear: (unfounded but it's still there )... Is that the trial is not actually going to get off the ground despite the chatter due to lack of efficacy that we don't know about but the high-ups do and we are just being strung along Perpetually waiting for American trials to begin. The thing that would most likely Calm my fears is actual before and after videos of the patients performing physical tasks, sorry but the integaconnect paper just doesn't have me fully convinced and leaves some questions. I need to SEE it... When do we get multi-media coverage?

There was a video of a guy from the China study. Not sure how to find it now.

[Jim]

My fear: (unfounded but it's still there )... Is that the trial is not actually going to get off the ground despite the chatter due to lack of efficacy that we don't know about but the high-ups do and we are just being strung along Perpetually waiting for American trials to begin. The thing that would most likely Calm my fears is actual before and after videos of the patients performing physical tasks, sorry but the integaconnect paper just doesn't have me fully convinced and leaves some questions. I need to SEE it... When do we get multi-media coverage?

Yea, we and the FDA are just stringing you along ...

http://www.icontact-archive.com/arch...cd3f59ef7b74ad

[lunasicc42]

I see what you are saying but after years of paralysis and utter disappointment there is still that inkling in the back of my mind... Ya know, fear isn't always rational... Godspeed.

But one question still remains: "will there be a media blitz of some kind? "

[lunasicc42]

There was a video of a guy from the China study. Not sure how to find it now.

anybody? Jim?

[tumbleweeds]

Yea, we and the FDA are just stringing you along ...

http://www.icontact-archive.com/arch...cd3f59ef7b74ad

Jim, how are the trials in India, China and Taiwan coming along? Have they started? Do they operate independently of each other or are their schedules related in some way?
Thanks

[Parth]

Don?t know about the trials in China and Taiwan but the trials in India would began after the Phase 2 trials have started in US. Have also been to one of the hospitals in India where the trial is planned, they also use the same Kunming walking program (6:6:6) but I don?t think that would be beneficial without Stem Cells

[Jim]

China won't be involved until the phase III. We would like to start India, Taiwan, and US at the same time but that will be difficult to pull off. Wise recently visited each country, but I didn't get a progress report. India has been doing the 6-6-6 walking program for about a year now. Like in China, some are recovering without any cells.

[Parth]

The walking program that Jim mentions is currently paid by the patients ( approx 30$ for 6 hours or 2000 INR for 6 hours) it’s not under any trial. I personally have tried it but none of patients that I know are able to complete the 6:6:6. It’s pretty exhausting and extremely hard.

[Jim]

Thanks for the report, Parth.

If I recall, some are able to make it to Kunming Level IV?

[Parth]

No problem Jim. Personally I have seen some patients walk some distance on Kunming walker with rope tied on their knees so that they don’t buckle up, but again at the end of the day the patients go back home on their wheelchairs only. I don’t know if the patients progressed any further. All of these patients are without the intraspinal UC cells.