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    I'm thinking of getting a new Apple iMac with a 2.0 GHz processor, upgrade the memory from 1 gig to 2 gigs of RAM and a 20" screen. At Best Buy this would come to $1300. I currently have a Dell 2350 Dimension PC that works ok but is 5 years old. Is it really worth it to switch over to a Mac as many folks claim? I can get a regular PC quite a bit cheaper. I'm not into computer games and it would be for regular household usage. The iMac does look very cool and people that have them love them. Any comments appreciated...good or bad. Thanks.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1185267959940

    #2
    There both the same.... do you drive a ford or a chev.

    Theres also this:
    http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...=DXCWRK1&s=dhs
    Its 1399, an runs a 2.2ghz and 2GB of ram

    I would get either as I'm not a "All-in-One" Fan. No fiux ability or upgrades.

    Oh your post should be iMac OR PC

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      #3
      I'm going Mac and have been researching it more today to see which one and where to buy.

      Having had a bad experience last month with my Uncle's new PC when I installed software for him with his Vista gig, I'm headed for Macland.

      The software and d/l's Uncle J tried to install were initially rejected on his system due to Vista. It took me quite a while to set his system up so it'd accept and run what he wanted and needed.

      For me a Mac makes more and more sense. I'm interested in vid shooting and editing in addition to writing so believe a MacPro is the way for me to go. Everything I hear indicates once you go Mac you never go back.

      Let us know what you decide.

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        #4
        I've been using a Mac forever as my personal computer. At work I was forced to use a PC and hated it in comparison to the ease and intuitive feel of a Mac. No one I know who has ever "gone mac" has felt the urge to go back......

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          #5
          Originally posted by LaMemChose
          For me a Mac makes more and more sense. I'm interested in vid shooting and editing in addition to writing so believe a MacPro is the way for me to go. Everything I hear indicates once you go Mac you never go back.

          Let us know what you decide.
          This is becoming less true now with quad cores..

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            #6
            Originally posted by Patonb
            This is becoming less true now with quad cores..
            You mean I've been sufficiently persuaded based upon marketing and friends to buy the hype and the MAC?

            How much less of a difference in Macs and PCs? What would be noticeable in function?

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              #7
              Originally posted by LaMemChose
              You mean I've been sufficiently persuaded based upon marketing and friends to buy the hype and the MAC?

              How much less of a difference in Macs and PCs? What would be noticeable in function?
              Up until just recently..... No it really was true.... Unless you had gajillions oif money to spend.

              The PC quad cores will render faster, becaused of multi-tasking. I tried to find so better/real facts but newest was jun 06. Whiuch Mac is/was better.

              I'll try to find more factual evidence on both.

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                #8
                the software that come on mac is good useful software, the stuff that comes on a PC is usually junk compared to the mac stuff.
                i think the mas is more intuitive, even beginners can figure out how to send a picture look at a picture,
                i wan to get one for video editing , but as Andy pointed out in another thread pc hardware is a lot cheaper.
                i know abode makes some video editing software that runs on pc's that is similar to final cut pro.
                si i am still undecided,
                cauda equina

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                  #9
                  i just bought an iMac 24" w/ 2.4G 6 weeks ago. i'm not sold yet when it comes to the Mac hype. i mean, it's nice & all, but so far i think i'd have been just as happy buying another PC. the $ wasn't an issue for me tho, and had heard so much good stuff about it i figured it was worth a shot.

                  really, i was just fed up w/ pc problems, so i thought it would be solved by going to Mac. however, in only 6 weeks, it has locked up on me a few times, and the whole 'intuitive' hype is just that -- hype (to me, anyway). yes, it is easy, but so was pc b/c i was so used to it. plus, how can you judge 'intuitiveness' of a platform?

                  don't get me wrong, i do like my iMac. i'm not worried about viruses, it's fast, etc. but i recommend that if you buy it that you do so b/c it has actual physical aspects that you like. not b/c someone says it's 'intuitive.'
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                    #10
                    I've been using a Mac forever as my personal computer. At work I was forced to use a PC and hated it in comparison to the ease and intuitive feel of a Mac. No one I know who has ever "gone mac" has felt the urge to go back......
                    I could write nearly the same thing!! I have been a Mac user since 1989, and am now on my 3rd Mac at home (and lusting after a new iMac). At work I started off with a Mac and then was forced to get a PC which I hate...I curse Bill Gates daily for Windows and how much more difficult it is to use, and how it presumes to know better than you what you want to do (unlike the much more intuitive Mac).

                    And on top of that, the Mac is a much more cool looking piece of equipment!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by smokey
                      I'm thinking of getting a new Apple iMac with a 2.0 GHz processor, upgrade the memory from 1 gig to 2 gigs of RAM and a 20" screen. At Best Buy this would come to $1300. I currently have a Dell 2350 Dimension PC that works ok but is 5 years old. Is it really worth it to switch over to a Mac as many folks claim? I can get a regular PC quite a bit cheaper. I'm not into computer games and it would be for regular household usage. The iMac does look very cool and people that have them love them. Any comments appreciated...good or bad. Thanks.

                      http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1185267959940
                      smokey,

                      I have a different perspective for suggesting that you get an iMac than PC. Get the iMac because it is different and you will learn something new. In my opinion, the hardware costs of a Mac and PC are now very similar. If you get a PC with similar specifications as a Mac, including all the included software, the costs of a PC may actually be higher than a Mac.

                      Thus, for example, a Dell XPS E4500 All-in-One TV Desktop is $1500 (Source). It has Intel Duo Core, 20" screen, 2 Gb RAM, 250 Gb drive, web cam, wireless, and vista home premium with TV tuner.

                      The iMac that you cited (Source) costs $1200 and has Intel Duo Core, 20" screen, 1 Gb RAM, Superdrive (read/write CD/DVD), 250 Gb drive, firewire wireless, and web cam. If you add the extra Gb of RAM and Parallels to run Windows you can take advantage of your Windows software, you come close to $1500.

                      For the same money, you will be getting both a Mac and a Windows desktop. If you are really dependent on Windows only software, such as games and Autocad, you can always boot the Mac up as a Windows computer and it is every bit as fast as a Dell or any other Windows machine. By the way, there are Mac only software that are great. Given this, it is difficult to understand why anybody would want to buy a Dell?

                      Windows is definitely not the same as Mac OSX. I am struck by the esthetic and functional difference every time I use Windows. You will not understand what I mean by the esthetic differences until you have used a Mac for a while. Simply put, OSX is beautiful and you won't appreciate it until you go from a Mac to the Windows environment. The shock is jarring.

                      The functional differences are equally drastic. All of a sudden, you find that the number of buttons that you push on the mouse has been reduced to one. What? How can you do so much with one button? Well, it not only is true but it is much better, in my opinion. If you want to do a right click, you can do it by holding the <control> key down while clicking. If you want, you can easily buy and use a multibutton mouse on the Mac.

                      The fact that almost all Mac programs use the same keystrokes for special functions really integrates the experience. Many people don't realize that Microsoft Word and Excel were written originally for the Mac and one of the reasons why they are so popular is because they essentially copied many of the Mac interface. So, if you use these programs at all, migration to the Mac will not be hard and much of the Mac system will be intuitive.

                      OSX, however, has been adding to the Mac standard in several distinct ways. First, in all programs that originate from Apple and many companies that make software for Mac only, pressing <Apple> will give you the text format window. This allows you to choose font and styles. Second, if you press <Apple>I, it will allow you to specify attributes of graphics and other objects. Third, they have now included a myriad of tools to display windows and Finder information, to the point that even I don't know how to use them. Finally, there are hundreds of third party and nearly free programs that allow you to extend all these tools, all aimed at giving users as much flexible control over how one navigates through the 100+ Gb of information that we have stored on our computers. Everybody who knows how to program the Mac has come out with a different way of displaying information on the Mac. That is a good thing.

                      Wise.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ScottS
                        really, i was just fed up w/ pc problems, so i thought it would be solved by going to Mac. however, in only 6 weeks, it has locked up on me a few times, and the whole 'intuitive' hype is just that -- hype (to me, anyway). yes, it is easy, but so was pc b/c i was so used to it. plus, how can you judge 'intuitiveness' of a platform?
                        I was aware of these problems and I waited until December 8, 2007 before placing my order, fully expecting to have new hardware and Leopard on my hard drive. Instead I ended up with old stock.
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                          #13
                          I bought an iMac last week. 2.4GHz processor, 2G memory, 250G hard drive, 20" screen; $1300. $80 more if I want iWorks (word processor, spreadsheet, etc). Not happy with it and it's going back. I'll eat the 10% restocking fee. Not even a stripped down word processor program comes with the iMac. The Safari browser has no drop box which I like to use on my pc to quickly access sites I've gone to, I downloaded the Firefox browser a couple days ago and it just quit on me now as I was on this site (second time in 5 days), two times error messages popped up claiming I didn't have enough memory to run Java, the computer wouldn't shut off one night, twice the iMac simply locked up on me....only had 2 or 3 windows open too, at 1280x800 resolution some text is so small it is completely illegible, regardless of the resolution often the images and text are a little fuzzy on most websites, if I increase the resolution the websites do not display properly, I adjusted the mouse to increase the tracking but I still don't find it to be as fast as my old Dell mouse. I do like the simplistic look of the whole computer, the flat keyboard, the quick start up cycle, no need for anti-virus software, the "tab" feature and the screen is nice too. However, at 20" I find much space is always unused and thus wasted on each side. The 20" diagonal screen is really 10.5" high and 17" wide but most websites use a display area that leaves about 2"-3" blank on each side of the page. At 2G,the speed is OK but doesn't blow me away. Overall I'm very disappointed in the iMac. By the way...I don't get the "intuitive" thing whatsoever.

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                            #14
                            ive got a windows bias over mac so know that before reading on.

                            ive heard alot of these discussions over time and never once have i heard a well educated explaniation as to why mac is superior to PC. generally people who argue for it (in my eyes) dont know enough about a computers functionality to truely experience a mac or PC.

                            it comes down to this: are you going to want to upgrade your machine and push it to the limits to see what it is capable of? or do you just want to do the mundane surf the web, listen to songs, smile at photos.. stuff like that.

                            this is just my opinion since ive never met anyone who actually knew their mac. its funny now that i think about, never met anyone who has put together a mac by hand, but met dozens who put their own PC together.

                            i cant understand why people make the decisions they do with computers. is it purely uneducation in the field mixed with all the propoganda? (pc vs mac commercials) lol
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                              #15
                              Smokey, I'm sorry your experience was not a good one. I switched several years ago and am glad I did. Safari is different than IE, you have to start typing a few letters for the address to come up, such sci. for this entire address you're looking at now.

                              Extra screen space does take a little getting used to, but I find it handy for several applications running at once, such as Safari and a webcam chat. Others that have made the switch can relate, but you may want to check into a few the crashes with Apple before returning.
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