I'm impressed. Ubuntu.

[CapnGimp]

Saybayon Linux iz bettern PORKFAT

HA! I'm using Sabayon now. I burned 3.4a to dvd after I got up this am. I was about to install it and by chance rt clicked over the destop during the setup process. It is running 'live' Fluxbox with a bunch of apps. So I came here to post. First time I've used Fluxbox Cory, nice simple one.
Anyway, I have been using linux distros since about late 97 so I understand about gaming not trying to be a know it all, don't get me wrong fellows.
I was caught by suprise on boot. After it got to the install environment it has BOTH my Plasma and laptop screens running perfect!! Usually, I have to install drivers by hand to get the plasma going right. I'm already sold after reading about it last nite, but when the plasma came up at boot, I'm a fan already
Download the dvd guys and run it live if ya don't want to install. After I check it out, I'm subject to repartition my hd to make it mostly Linux vs winders.
The writeup says this is THE gamers choice of distros to run windows games. You haver to at least go read!! TRUST ME on this one. Methinks we have a new RULER OF de ROOST here. I like the icon for it, lol, it's either a Turkey or chicken foot. I like to think Turkey as ol Ben wanted to make this noble bird our main squeeze instead of the eagle.
ok, back to the install, check you guys in a bit.

PS I couldn't resist installing over Ubuntu on my laptop. I'm a headfirst kinda guy... I'll do the old server later.

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[CapnGimp]

Oh, for all you WINDERZ hosers...er, being-used....ummmm...users out there, lol
I am typing this post while my OS INSTALLS, not waiting 2 hours to begin using, just to do another 5 hours of updating before I install my software, lol.
and PatonB, in regards to defragging Linux, it is NOT needed, this ain't MS.
It places the files for fast access automatically WITHOUT bunching them up back to back only to be moved and fragmented when used.
Linux, the REAL thing.
And it is free.

[Patonb]

What is the base of the Sabayan?------------ nvm It's Gentoo

[mr_coffee]

Yep flux box is a nice light weight windows manager, I use to use blackbox (which I believe flux box is based on) on my old old system I think it had 32 megs of ram, 10 gig harddrive, god knows what processor speed but it would run black box fast as hell.

So with it being gentoo base, do you have to re-compile everything everytime you update or how does that work?

[Patonb]

Mr C... I guess, from reading their wiki, they plan frequent updates so all you do is d/l the new verson, and 'update" via the disk.

I guess the disk/OS knows if it's an update, or full install.

[CapnGimp]

It's like Ubuntu's package manager, point n click and it does the rest. It's called Emerge, like apt get in debian. Oddly enough, the live cd ran great and when I installed, I ran into a few problems with X. Been busy outside all day, haven't had a chance to fix it yet, just printed off the appropiate wiki page and a few others for future reference.
You guys have those up to date computers, download the 3.4a dvd it works like a live dvd and check it out! It is smooth.
I am anxious to try a few games on it. When they get thru with the waterfall and sprinkler system here, I'll have more time. The falls have attracted every frog in the country to here. Sounds great at nite with them all calling out. Even my bad hearing, I can hear them loud and clear.
Gonna go outside and watch thesunset with my daWg, I'm babysittin him this week, we got the fort to ourselves
I'll update ya on the install when I get it going(hopefully tonite) unless I tv out.

[mattblan]

CapnGimp, is portage better than it used to be? I really liked Gentoo, but the prebuilt package selection just wasn't as good as debian and I hated compiling everything on my laptop even with ccdev or whatever the cluster compiler was. It looks pretty cool, but I would like to hear your opinion after u have been stuck with it for a while.

Thx

Matt

[mr_coffee]

I love this feature of compiz-fusion! you can drag the windows right across any of the 4 desktops you can do it without compiz-fusion but doesn't loook as neat

[Lazlo]

CapnGimp, is portage better than it used to be? I really liked Gentoo, but the prebuilt package selection just wasn't as good as debian and I hated compiling everything on my laptop even with ccdev or whatever the cluster compiler was. It looks pretty cool, but I would like to hear your opinion after u have been stuck with it for a while.

Gentoo is (ahm) "the bees knees" if you are doing software development. Portage is the most amazing package manager out there imo. Patience is a virtue, especially on old hardware. I suspect a high-end Core 2 Duo would tear through most compiles pretty quickly though.

Sabayon is on top of a gentoo core but apparently makes a lot more binary downloads available. I have not used it myself but I understand that you need to be careful using standard gentoo software update methods with Sabayon, as it can mess up the desktop. This is all documented well on the Sabayon site. Might need to carve out another VM to try it out.

[Patonb]

Gentoo is (ahm) "the bees knees"
Sabayon is on top of a gentoo core but apparently makes a lot more binary downloads available. I have not used it myself but I understand that you need to be careful using standard gentoo software update methods with Sabayon, as it can mess up the desktop. This is all documented well on the Sabayon site. Might need to carve out another VM to try it out.

Yha, read that too. I think that's their motivation for frequent updating.

[Scorpion]

I love this feature of compiz-fusion! you can drag the windows right across any of the 4 desktops you can do it without compiz-fusion but doesn't loook as neat

Yeah, that's a cool looking feature, which is definitely inspired by OSX Leopard's "Workspace" feature. Actually, a lot of what I saw on that YouTube vid seemed OSX inspired, but that's cool. It looks like some useful features (like the one you mention above, Cory) and not just eye-candy. The eye-candy is nice, though.

I've long wanted to build a PC from scratch, including a custom designed case, and Linux looks like a good way to go. I'm thinking it might make a good media machine (music, DVR, etc). It could be a way to make and sell low-cost computers and laptops, too, since the OS and the software would be free. I imagine there's a market for computers already set up with Linux and useful software (OpenOffice, Gimp, etc)

No secret I'm a Mac guy, but the open source world and Linux does intrigue and interest the geek in me. I like how Linux can be customized to have different looks. It'd be fun to teamup with a good programmer and design the GUI for a new Linux desktop.

I'm lost with all your technical Linux talk though.

Capn, you run Linux exclusively, right?

[mr_coffee]

Scorpion I did see most of the stuff like you said from the OSX leopard's eye candy awhile ago when I watched Leopard's release video and I was excited to see linux programmers implementing that idea.

I'll admit I think OSX does a nicer job and offers even cooler visual effects than linux after watching the Leopard's video.

But i'm glad they still try and it seems to be improving pretty fast from the first time i saw compiz visual effects.


I always wanted to try a mac, but didn't have the extra cash to have a windows/linux and a mac, with linux I just bought an extra 200gig harddrive and put it on there. It would be nice if I could do that with a mac as well.

I imagine there's a market for computers already set up with Linux and useful software (OpenOffice, Gimp, etc)

Well in the business world, Linux is huge, IBM loves open source and linux. THey are really pushing for their customers to move to zLinux as well.

At the labs I work in somtimes, you can maybe find 3 windows machines and the rest are running either RHEL or SuSe E or AIX

[alan]

I finally got Ubuntu installed, but I have no idea about using Linux. I don't even know how to do things like install browser plugins - I'm used to clicking on .exe files, or using the command line. And I'd like to copy my Firefox bookmarks and passwords to the Ubuntu Firefox.

[Scorpion]

Cory - Hopefully, Leopard's BootCamp will allow you to do that, if you ever decide to get a Mac. I know you can boot a Mac off an external drive, even an iPod that's configured correctly, but I'm not sure how feasible/possible it is to boot another OS off an external.

By the way, my website (under construction again) is hosted on a Linux server. Supposedly it's more stable than a server running Windows? It's cool that it's becoming more and more popular. I remember first hearing about it in '98, so it's about 10 years old? Older?

[Patonb]

Scorp...... Alot of servers are run on linux... I've heard though the Windows server is really stable now. Larger companies seem to be going M$ cause of the ease of tech support, but you can't beat the price for a Linux setup.