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    #31
    It looks like the iPhone has been unlocked but is it legal? iPhoneunlocking.com has been put on hold because AT&T's lawyers have contacted them.
    The test of success is not what you do when you are on top. Success is how high you bounce when you hit the bottom
    --General George Patton

    Complex problems need to be solved collectively.
    ––Paul Nussbaum
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      #32
      http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/24...lock-the-hack/

      Now That The iPhone Can Be Unlocked, Will Apple Try To Block The Hack?
      Duncan Riley
      24 comments »

      For those who might have missed it: Engadget has the scoop on a new software solution that unlocks Apple’s iPhone, allowing it to be used on any mobile carrier worldwide (presuming of course they run a 2G GSM network).
      http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/i...ugust-24-2007/

      The creators of the iPhone hack (iPhoneSimFree.com) claim that the hack is “restore and upgrade resistant”; essentially reseting the phone and/ or loading the latest software updates doesn’t affect the hack. The big question is whether it will be resistant to future updates.

      So will Apple try to block the hack, or will the Apple engineers in Cupertino be secretly cheering that their gift to mobile users can now be used worldwide and just simply leave the hack alone?

      It is unlikely that the decision will be Apple’s alone. AT&T will be very unimpressed at the notion that users could buy an iPhone and bypass their network. The iPhone has already proved itself as being a massive confidence boost for what is considered by some to be America’s worst mobile carrier. The tangible benefits of a AT&T exclusive iPhone are also strong: roughly 1 million users are locked in to AT&T plans averaging somewhere between approx. $50-$100 per month per user, a benefit in the hundred of millions of dollars over the life of the contract. AT&T would be hoping for millions of additional users in the future as well.

      On the other hand, someone, somewhere in Apple must be at least a little bit excited by the notion that more people than ever will now consider buying the iPhone. As much as Apple receives some financial benefit from AT&T in terms of a signup or ongoing payment, the real money for Apple is in the hardware and the Apple services such as iTunes, services iPhone users do and will use.

      Either way, as long as the iPhone hack works America’s balance of payments should see a very small improvement in the coming months, as first adopters, and tech fiends world wide take iPhones home with them from their next trips to the United States.
      Well, now that a New Jersey teenager has done it, lost of others are claiming to have done so... including http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_6608481.htm
      Report: iPhone system hacked, made usable in Israel
      www.chinaview.cn 2007-08-26 23:43:34 Print

      JERUSALEM, Aug. 26 (Xinhua) -- Three Israeli computer engineers have managed to hack Apple's iPhone system, and made it available for use through Israeli carriers, local daily Yedioth Ahronoth reported on its website on Sunday.

      According to the report, the three were also able to lend the iPhone a Hebrew interface, thus breaking Apple's restriction on using the phone only through the AT&T company in the United States.

      The report said that Dubbi, Ofir and Eli, the three Israeli hackers, bought their iPhones abroad, long before the thought of hacking its systems entered their minds.

      Ofir was quoted by the report as saying that he knew at the beginning that the iPhone would be just a nice gadget and not an active phone if it was used in Israel, but he didn't mind and still purchased it.

      Another hacker Eli revealed that breaking into the system of iPhone didn't cost anything, but did take a long time.

      The three are not ready to share how they got the iPhone to work, but did say that practically anyone could do it, said the report.

      The iPhone is a multimedia and Internet-enabled mobile phone designed and sold by Apple Inc.
      But the real breakthrough is not getting the iPhone to work with cell phone networks. The real breakthrough will be getting the iPhone to work with internet Voice-Over-Internet-Protocol. This is what I think AT&T is most worried about. If people can make regular voice phone calls with any GSM network and then communicate via video phone calls with any wifi station through internet, this will just about blow about 30% of AT&T's and T-mobile's cell phone billings away. I currently pay about $100 per month for my T-mobile unlimited blackberry with worldwide converage.

      There are lots of people working on bgetting the iphone to work with local area networks, wifi, in other words:
      http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ticle_id=84791
      iPhone made to work on local RP network

      By Erwin Oliva
      INQUIRER.net
      Last updated 05:33pm (Mla time) 08/26/2007

      MANILA, Philippines--Apple iPhone users in the Philippines can now directly use the popular mobile phone on a local network.

      It has become possible to access a local mobile network without using a roaming arrangement with US provider AT&T after a certain "Dubeditions" posted a photo and a short entry in a website forum indicating that he had found a way to unlock the iPhone and make it work on the network of Globe Telecom, a local telecommunications firm.

      In a post dated August 15, 2007, Dubeditions revealed to members of the Philippine Macintosh Users Group (PhilMUG)'s forum that he had cloned the iPhone's subscriber identity module (SIM).

      INQUIRER.net has tried several times to contact the person behind the technique, but he has declined to respond.

      The Apple iPhone, which combines a mobile phone with the company's iconic iPod music player, has not yet been released in Southeast Asia. iPhones in the US are exclusively available on AT&T's mobile network.

      "If you read closely, the original poster mentioned supersim. This means he is claiming to use methods (recently posted around the Internet) which involve writing data onto a blank 'supersim' sim card to unlock the iPhone's full network capabilities," PhilMUG subscriber Danieldy further explained in the forum.
      The iPhone has become the favorite challenge for the best hackers in the world. They can now play a sorts of games (Source) on the iphone. DVD John, the guy who hacked the iPod that unlocked the iTune encryption protocol, has now been published a piece of software that allows people to use the iPhone has a super ipod and wifi device without phone service. And, all this has happened in less than 2 months after the release of the phone. By the end of the year, I guarantee you that there will be readily available software from everywhere that can make the iPhone work with any cell phone service and through wifi. There is no way that Apple or AT&T will be able to stop it.

      http://www.theregister.com/2007/07/04/iphone_hack/
      iPhone hack bypasses AT&T
      DVD Jon strikes again
      By John Leyden → More by this author
      Published Wednesday 4th July 2007 12:43 GMT
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      Famed reverse engineer Jon Lech Johansen claims to have discovered a way to "activate" an iPhone without signing up for a contract with AT&T. The hack allows users to use the iPod and Wi-Fi capabilities of the devices, but doesn't allow use of its phone features.

      DVD Jon - who's been something of a thorn in Apple's side for some time, most notably when he decoded the encryption that locks down iTunes-purchased music - said his latest hack allows potential iPhone purchasers to use the device as a sort of iPod/personal organiser on steroids without entering into a two year contract with AT&T.
      Last edited by Wise Young; 26 Aug 2007, 8:30 PM.

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        #33
        Here is how much Apple loses from the unlocking:
        http://muhammadsaleem.com/2007/08/30...hone-unlocked/

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          #34
          oops... price just DROPPED $200.

          www.apple.com

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              #36
              Scott,

              it is interesting that it has dropped $200 in price from $600 in June. That is for the 8 Gb model. People who lined up for it in June must be kicking themselves a bit. What is even more interesting, the AT&T web site doesn't know about it and is still saying that the 4 Gb model is $499 and the 8 Gb model is $599 at the Apple web site and their stores (Source)

              Anybody who bought from AT&T probably will be puking in their toilets when they get home and find out that they could have bought from Apple for $399.

              The reason for the price drop is obvious. Apple introduced their iPods today. The following is a picture of new iPod Touch. $399 for 16 Gb ($299.00 for 8 Gb). It can surf the web over wifi and download music. It is essentially an iphone without the cell phone. And it is going for the same price with more RAM.


              Wise.
              Last edited by Wise Young; 5 Sep 2007, 5:38 PM.

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                #37
                Ahh, now i see. I thought it had to do with the unlocking.
                Say what you mean and mean what you say because those who mind dont matter and those who matter dont mind.

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                  #38
                  Apple offers a 10-day price guarantee. You can get $200 back if you bought within the past 10 days.

                  http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/05/p...ce-drop-blues/
                  It's never a bad thing when you can get good gear for less money, but we totally feel the pain of all those that spent hours or days waiting in line to buy an iPhone for $600 only to have that price cut by a third within the first few months. Then again, we know it's a little bit of a contradiction: c'mon, chances are if you bought an iPhone really early on you probably didn't care too much about the price anyway. Or maybe you did -- now's your chance to sound off.

                  P.S. -Apple offers a 10 day price guarantee -- you knew that right? If you snagged an iPhone in the past ten days (we've also heard two weeks), get some of that money back!

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                    #39
                    To all iPhone customers:

                    Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

                    We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

                    Steve Jobs
                    Apple CEO

                    http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/
                    The test of success is not what you do when you are on top. Success is how high you bounce when you hit the bottom
                    --General George Patton

                    Complex problems need to be solved collectively.
                    ––Paul Nussbaum
                    usc87.blogspot.com

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                      #40
                      My friend got a $200 price adjustment for the price drop on the 8gb iphone, btw- so if you bought one, I'd contact apple and see if they will comp you.

                      He got his relatively soon after they first went on sale too-
                      An administrator made me remove my signature.

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                        #41
                        Totally quad friendly for Dan!
                        He just got one, and loves it, it is the first
                        cell phone he's been able to use.
                        Yay!
                        C

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                          #42
                          Yes, Apple issued an iPology or its iPhone price adjustment. Scorch.

                          Was looking into buying one. Think I'll watch the price a few more months to see what happpens.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by LaMemChose
                            Yes, Apple issued an iPology or its iPhone price adjustment. Scorch.

                            Was looking into buying one. Think I'll watch the price a few more months to see what happpens.
                            I'll wait for the next version or maybe something better. Iphone I was a learning process. Iphone II will be much better. Competition may produce something even better.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by DA
                              Competition may produce something even better.
                              Google Phone, perhaps?
                              ...it's worse than we thought. it turns out the people at the white house are not secret muslims, they're nerds.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by DA
                                I'll wait for the next version or maybe something better. Iphone I was a learning process. Iphone II will be much better. Competition may produce something even better.
                                Agreed.

                                Welcome to iWorld or Googleville as Steven suggested a GooglePhone.

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