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    I'll need a new PC soon and am wondering if there are any recommendations out there. I currently have Adobe Creative Suite and use Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign quite heavily. I'll need to stick with a PC since I can't reinvest in Mac versions of the software. PC needs to be fast, have good graphics display and able to handle many operations at once. Any suggestions?

  • #2
    Why not build what you want? It's fairly simple.
    Foolish

    "We have met the enemy and he is us."-POGO.

    "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it."~Edgar Allan Poe

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    • #3
      yep, with FO, it will save you some money that you can spend on horsepower.........my laptop runs the i7 3610qm with 6gb ram and it will handle anything you can throw at it and I have yet to beef it up, will double the ram and up the speed and drop a ssd drive in, I have read that it just makes this processor scream, the reason why I bought it.......but building one is really the easiest thing you can do, if you can grip a screwdriver you can build a computer...........

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      • #4
        Originally posted by airart1 View Post
        yep, with FO, it will save you some money that you can spend on horsepower.........my laptop runs the i7 3610qm with 6gb ram and it will handle anything you can throw at it and I have yet to beef it up, will double the ram and up the speed and drop a ssd drive in, I have read that it just makes this processor scream, the reason why I bought it.......but building one is really the easiest thing you can do, if you can grip a screwdriver you can build a computer...........
        and even if you can't grip a screwdriver, you can guide a friend who can. Building a computer is so easy that even a fool doesn't have trouble assembling a high performance machine. Couple hours tops.
        Foolish

        "We have met the enemy and he is us."-POGO.

        "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it."~Edgar Allan Poe

        "Dream big, you might never wake up!"- Snoop Dogg

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        • #5
          Originally posted by truly View Post
          I'll need a new PC soon and am wondering if there are any recommendations out there. I currently have Adobe Creative Suite and use Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign quite heavily. ... PC needs to be fast, have good graphics display and able to handle many operations at once. Any suggestions?
          Actually, the graphics chip doesn't make that much difference here. You need to beef up the amount of RAM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by -scott- View Post
            Actually, the graphics chip doesn't make that much difference here. You need to beef up the amount of RAM.
            The I7 with the onboard HD Graphics 4000 does it all. The monitor(s) (which some call a display) is important. Prices have gone up a little recently, but RAM is still pretty cheap - cheap enough for a power user to max out popular priced boards.
            Foolish

            "We have met the enemy and he is us."-POGO.

            "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it."~Edgar Allan Poe

            "Dream big, you might never wake up!"- Snoop Dogg

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            • #7
              In my opinion. No need for overkill. Many of the apps you list I believe only require an old Pentium 4 so a new simple low cost laptop (or desktop) i3 with 6meg memory would be far more power than you will actually need. You can purchase these from a chain store for very low cost, less cost than you can build one for. If you move to Adobe cloud services your PC requirements go down even more. All modern graphic cards produce very good results, unless your require something to display extremely fast action (gaming) the standard video chip set that comes with a modern PC would probably be very satisfying. Wise choice to stay away from the MAC.

              I at times run some extreme Real Time applications with heavy math processing and as a FFT spectrum analyzer on an low cost i3 Laptop with NO problems. From the user perspective It performs no better than one of my high power i7 workstations.

              Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
              Tim

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              • #8
                Got to agree. Somethhing along the lines of http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+Pavil...99202500050004

                from bestbuy should suffice. Cost about $600 with shipping.

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                • #9
                  We build our own PC's for our office but the first few had a few issues so if you go that route check with someone who has had some experience.
                  For me the monitor is #1 for $ spent especially if you're a heavy user. I like the better Samsung 27" LEDs. I found going bigger is not cost efficient and the larger monitors put out a lot of heat.
                  Speaking of heat, consider cooling and the associated noise factor that comes with that. I like a quiet PC but need to deal with cooling so liquid cooling works for me. You may be able to get by with fans but consider checking out how loud the system is before purchase.
                  Next I would think you'd want a good graphics card. Here again consider the heat/noise issue. There are good quiet cards out there now.
                  Footprint (size) of the machine may also dictate the PC/build you go with.
                  Most operating systems are 64 bit nowadays. If you have older software you may have some issues running it but there is usually a work around.
                  You might want to also think of you storage requirements (hard drives). Heavy graphics users usually need lots (which means a couple of large regular HDs) but consider using an SSD for at least the operating and processing part of your system. The speed gains are significant.
                  RAM and a better CPU are fairly basic but cooling can be an issue with the higher end models.
                  Then there are all the bell and whistles, like hot swapable HDs, LED light display, sound cards but now we're entering geekdom.

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                  • #10
                    I run Adobe CS, do audio and video editing, and other CPU intensive apps on my three year old Dell Studio laptop with an i7 chip set, 8MB memory, and Windows 7. Works just fine.

                    Check on Amazon for prices. Windows 8 is still not widly used, but it might be what comes installed.

                    Too bad you can't afford a Mac. The layout designer for the magazine I work for uses the Adobe products and he swares by his Mac.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ilmx34 View Post
                      In my opinion. No need for overkill. Many of the apps you list I believe only require an old Pentium 4 so a new simple low cost laptop (or desktop) i3 with 6meg memory would be far more power than you will actually need. You can purchase these from a chain store for very low cost, less cost than you can build one for. If you move to Adobe cloud services your PC requirements go down even more. ... Wise choice to stay away from the MAC.
                      I use Photoshop extensively and this is far from accurate. It needs considerable power for large, multi-layered, complex documents.

                      The suggestion of Adobe's Creative Cloud is a subscription plan to access copies of their desktop programs + cloud storage, costing $75/mo, or $600/yr if you pay for a year upfront.

                      Mac vs PC is a moot discussion for Adobe products. Everything they make works well on either platform.

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                      • #12
                        im using an ordinary computer, However Iv agonized over the purchase of a graphics tablet.
                        I got the wacom4 with pen n touch and mouse. I got the small.

                        It comes with samples of graphics programs, but they are expensive. really expensive. but the software that does come with the tablet is useable.

                        I bought an inexpensive art program called artrage3 I paid $30-60 I cant remember which, and the $14,99 disc. Im glad I got the disk.

                        Im very happy with this set-up. I can replace it if I had too. I could not replace my laptop easily, or afford those awesome adobe graphics programs, but Iv heard there might be others like Artrage, and that Artrage is coming out with a cad key program.
                        the cad key software that comes with the tablet is enough to learn with.

                        I like the artrage program. you can try it out free, and it is easy to remove from your computer if you need to.
                        Ive been very happy with my wacom graphics tablet and combination of affordable software.

                        you get corel paint, adobe paint and photoshop samples. (The full software costs $300-1000.)

                        I use a Del Z14 laptop, and a very inexspensive emachine desktop that is currently dead due to care cure moderating, but I back up drawings on an external hard drive.

                        graphis porn for me is the wacom cintiq. that seems to be what all the big guys are using, as far as a complete graphics computer. too expensive for me.

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                        • #13
                          ps, my del z14 laptop does not get overloaded with the graphics stuff, just games, and the overload of despamming.

                          I think my toshiba would have been better, but was way more expensive to replace, bigger, heavier, and less bed, or floor user friendly.

                          I paid $700, for the del, but it was financed. I bought the extra warranty, and have had the screen replaced with no problems since. It is a year and a half old as is my wacom tablet.

                          I think you could use it all just fine on an inexpensive laptop with no problems, but I like the Delz for its backlit keys, and it is fast too.

                          if you got a wacom graphics tablet I would get the medium, but the small is working out. Im plannin on upgrading to the larger one eventually.

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                          • #14
                            How much $$$ do you want to spend on the PC? From there you and then sort of piece the thing together. Take a look at Hp www.shopping.hp.com

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the responses, everyone. Lots of good ideas and I'll investigate them. (maybe not building my own, though...yikes!) I'm currently running a Lenovo Y550 which was rated very highly when I bought it. However, as I've added things the speed has really tanked and it can't keep up with me anymore. I've cleaned it up as much as possible and store what I can on an external drive. I like the Cloud idea..haven't considered that before but it sounds like a nice concept.

                              Thanks again for taking the time to respond!

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