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    My morning PCA asked to be paid in advance 3 weeks in a row

    She always shows up for the other four days, but I believe I'm allowing her to set an undesirable precedent.


    She has asked her afternoon able-bodied house cleaning clients for outright loans. If I ever lend her money (other than the advance pay, which I know I should not do) feel free to come to Connecticut and put me out of my misery.

    I know Fuentejps, if he employed attendants, wouldn't put up with this.

    "Oh, you want to be paid in advance? Here's $1,000 to pay for this broken jaw.

    KAAAAAAA BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

    #2
    if she's dependable and does a good job, paying in advance is not really a problem, but don't go further on pay
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      #3
      We never pay in advance, and that condition of employment is included in our PCA contract. What will you do if they don't show up for work? Quit or are fired during that time period? Loans are similarly a very bad idea.

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        #4
        pca being paid early

        Try to find a new am aide. I agree with SCI Nurse

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          #5
          I have been plotting ways to dump her for about a year. One drawback is she has only missed about four days in 3 years and a couple of those were because of snowstorms.

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            #6
            Are there any other issues with her? If she causes you stress, that is enough reason. I don't put up with any nonsence. Otherwise it will continue to get out of hand.

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              #7
              How much have you advanced her? Your comments make it seem that she's just asked for 1 week's advance (i.e. she owes you one week of service).
              Daniel

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                #8
                It is setting a bad precedent and possibly reinforcing poor budgeting. If you do decide to do an advance, make certain it is no more than you can write off and make it clear that this is the last time. Explain to her that this is not built into your budget.
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                  #9
                  $325 for the week.

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                    #10
                    If it was me I'd advance the 325.00 because of her track record of showing up (unless she's late a lot). Can't have your cake and eat it too when it comes to help these days.

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                      #11
                      I agree. If it's only 1 week of pay that she's asked for advance on 3 weeks ago, sounds like she simply had an unexpected expense and hasn't been able to get caught up.

                      Doesn't seem like chronic money problems.
                      Daniel

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                        #12
                        Hello,

                        In my opinion when hired help starts behaving this way clearly it is a time to run a new classified ad or advertise however you may choose to, for new help.

                        Human nature never changes. After certain amount time people get very comfortable and that is a good thing 90% of the time. For the other 10%, after 34 years, I have seen it all. Drug theft, robbery, sexual behavior, etc. any of these indicate a person has reached that comfort level and beyond and therefore it is time to be cut back, fired or warned.

                        That's my two cents. It's probably a good thing I do not work in human resources.
                        Futurewalker

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                          #13
                          I know that this doesn't answer your question but I hold back a weeks pay. I have done that since I first started hiring aides, which has been about three years now. Maybe you could let it slide this time but with the condition that you won't be able to again in the future. Of course you would have to find a diplomatic way of putting it.

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                            #14
                            Having a PCA that has been that reliable for so long is a big deal, so I would not want to replace her.
                            Can you tell her that you don't want to get in the habit of this?
                            We ran into this with one of my husband's aides when paying out of pocket and I felt really awkward about it.

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                              #15
                              If I read the title correctly the problem is not that she has done this once, but rather THREE times in THREE weeks, aka asking to be paid in advance every week. If this is the case I would do one of a couple things.
                              1) I would sit down and have a conversation with her about how she is very reliable, always comes to work as expected, etc. but that when you have a job at XYZ employer (any employer) and you sign a contract of what your wages will be, when you get paid, etc. XYZ employer does not then hand you your first paycheck and say "now, since you will be working for me here is some money up front." The fact is, you are paid for the work that is COMPLETED, not TO BE completed at a later date.
                              -If you keep giving her advances, she will start expecting them to become more permanent, or that to even become her new pay schedule (since she is paid on a weekly basis). This means that if she decided to leave you high and dry and quit without notice, you would also lose the $325 that you had already paid her for the week.
                              2). I would sit down and have a chat with her about her financial needs and how you can assist her with that. If she needs to be paid on Monday instead of Friday, that can be accommodated, but she will be given one last "advance" and then work for a week without being paid on the regular date (work one week to pay off the advance, then work a regular work week) and her new pay schedule will resume on Monday instead of Friday so that she can pay her bills when they are due, etc. That way it becomes her new pay schedule, she is being paid after services are rendered, etc. and it does not leave you high and dry if she decides to quit without notice.
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