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    more than once I have had a caregiver disappear after they got paid without giving notice. What is the best way to have a little peace of mind?
    How would this work? I would pay the caregiver every two weeks. I would keep a portion of their salary the first pay period that would be returned if they give me two weeks notice when they decide to quit. If they don't give me two weeks notice, they do not receive the money.

    Is this legal and ethical?
    Would it discourage caregivers from quitting on the spot after they are paid?

    #2
    Originally posted by Hos View Post
    more than once I have had a caregiver disappear after they got paid without giving notice. What is the best way to have a little peace of mind?
    How would this work? I would pay the caregiver every two weeks. I would keep a portion of their salary the first pay period that would be returned if they give me two weeks notice when they decide to quit. If they don't give me two weeks notice, they do not receive the money.

    Is this legal and ethical?
    Would it discourage caregivers from quitting on the spot after they are paid?
    Although it is irritating it is not illegal not to give two weeks notice. It is illegal not to pay someone for services rendered. I would suggest the carrot instead of the stick. Promise a bonus if they stay a month, also I have found tipping well goes a long way.

    Tom

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      #3
      Hi Hos,

      I agree with the carrot approach. If possible give them a bonus after 6 months, then if possible double the bonus at a year. Let them know about how the bonus works and how much it is. If someone's doing a good job for you toss them a a surprise extra $20 or $50 on payday. I have always let my care-givers bring there children, this too is a type of bonus they're unlike to find elsewhere and saves them from spending on daycare. I've even baby sat kids 4 and up at no charge while my care-giver runs their own errands. (I telecommute now, so I'm usually at home.)

      I will also hire the one whom I'm most likely to get along with over one who is better trained but with whom I may clash.

      In the end there's no guarantee. I've had live-aids leave unannounced in the middle of the night and also while I was at work. (Numerous times.) The problem seems to occur much more with live-in than with live-out.

      Blessings

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        #4
        Are you paying them out of pocket, or through IHSS? If the latter, they have regulations about payment that you need to follow, including NO supplementation of pay with cash. This would preclude giving bonuses as suggested above.

        Do you have a contract with your PCAs? Do you specify the amount of notice required? Do you have any incentive for remaining on the job such as periodic salary reviews/raises?

        Do you check references and do a background check that includes employment stability?

        (KLD)
        The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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          #5
          No Vacation Nation

          I was surprised to learn on the weekend that the US is the only country in the Western world not to mandate vacation time. My care aides accrue vacation pay every pay period. That's an incentive to stick around, not that they couldn't leave post vacation.

          KLD's advice on using a contract is sound.

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            #6
            We don't need no stinking vacations, we're Americans.
            Originally posted by Van Quad View Post
            I was surprised to learn on the weekend that the US is the only country in the Western world not to mandate vacation time. My care aides accrue vacation pay every pay period. That's an incentive to stick around, not that they couldn't leave post vacation.

            KLD's advice on using a contract is sound.
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              #7
              Originally posted by rdf View Post
              We don't need no stinking vacations, we're Americans.
              Better living through pharmaceuticals

              Yours is a stressed-out nation...look in the politics forum for confirmation. You need time off to relax; it makes a worker more productive in the long run.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Van Quad View Post
                ...You need time off to relax; it makes a worker more productive in the long run.
                Hah! Our employee handbook used to say something like that. Last year there was a crunch; no vacations unless specifically approved by the VP. I checked the online handbook - guess which sentences had been removed?
                - Richard

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                  Are you paying them out of pocket, or through IHSS? If the latter, they have regulations about payment that you need to follow, including NO supplementation of pay with cash. This would preclude giving bonuses as suggested above.

                  (KLD)

                  You have got to be kidding me?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bspill1 View Post
                    You have got to be kidding me?
                    About what?? If you are getting IHSS, you should have been notified of this in writing when you first applied.

                    (KLD)
                    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                      #11
                      Although it is NOT illegal, I do find it to be unethical. They are CAREGIVERS! Doesn't this mean that they CARE?

                      If this has happened more than once I would take a look at the reason(s) behind it. Afterall, they do know that they signed up to be a caregiver. Therefore, they should know that someone needs them.

                      Is it that they are getting higher paying offers?
                      Are they being overworked?
                      Is the condition of the person they are taking care of - too much to handle?

                      I think if you find out why they are leaving you can then remedy the problem.

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                        #12
                        Dennis, how many PCAs have you employed?

                        The reality is that people who are seeking employment as PCAs are rarely from the part of our population who have a great record of stability, dependability, or great work habits. They are also not rocket scientists. If they did/were, they would already have jobs doing something else. You have to kiss a lot of frogs to get a prince!

                        (KLD)
                        The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                          #13
                          I don't need a caregiver and can manage myself fine. I never even thought if some day I will need to hire someone. It will suck, because I already get bitchy at people who open doors for me lol.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unconstruct View Post
                            I don't need a caregiver and can manage myself fine. I never even thought if some day I will need to hire someone. It will suck, because I already get bitchy at people who open doors for me lol.
                            I am glad you are managing for yourself. That will make a huge difference.
                            We have to have aides. How I wish we did not.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by LindaT View Post
                              I am glad you are managing for yourself. That will make a huge difference.
                              We have to have aides. How I wish we did not.
                              I have family that has MS and she is 70 something. My aunt Sally who I have learned a lot from. She is in a chair, needs help to get out of bed, but most everything else she still does herself...including the incontinence thing.

                              It makes me feel better..I'm still strong and have years before I need to have assistance with the personal stuff. I feel for the SCI people..they are dropped into the worst of it from the start..everything. At least I can "learn as I go" so it's not to much a shock when the time comes for myself to need some real help.

                              I figure if my aunt still cares for herself with MS at her age, then I should be fine for a long long time.

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