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    Texas CDS Program

    Trying to get out information about the CDS option in Texas. Texas Residents on Primary Care, CBA, or CLASS are eligible.
    Please let me know if you need more information ?

    http://www.dads.state.tx.us/providers/CDS/

    #2
    PM'd you
    Rosie, wife to Bobby
    C5 due to MVA in 1981

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      #3
      Love love love this program!!! Chose your own providers and great flexibility.

      Texas kicks a$$!!

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        #4
        CDS Program: CLASS Program

        Please be advised there is a long waiting list. I recently checked into the program for my daughter (c5 c6 incomplete, 22 yrs. old when she had her accident) to give her the flexibility of hiring her own attendants and physical therapy program. I was told she's 27,000 on the waiting list. Here's what an official in that program said to me:This was a phone conversation I had a couple of days ago with a person in the Medicaid system. This isn't the first time I have had someone working in the Medicaid system tell me this. He told me: You have two options to get to the top of the CLASS Program List:
        1. She has to be mentally incapacitated, autistic
        2. You have to put your family member into a nursing facility for 30 days and Medicaid will pay for the time spent in the nursing facility

        This is why the spinal cord injured clients are always getting put on the waiting list for these types of Medicaid programs. doesn't this gentleman realize that WE, THE TAXPAYERS, are paying for Medicaid.

        Please let us all get the word out to our state officials, family friends, acquaintances and everybody because the Medicaid CDS programs aren't being made available to the SCI community.
        Aggie Mom 2007

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          #5
          I am referring to CDS only

          I waited over 8 years for the CLASS program.
          I am talking mainly about the CDS option there is no waiting list for it.
          I hear there is supposed to be some openings soon. Have you tried CBA? It is just about as good as CLASS. CLASS pays more per hour for an attendent but it has the modifications program also.
          They have other programs for children and other needs.

          It may be worth it in the long run to endure 30 days in a nursing home to get on CLASS.





          CDS is available to consumers in the following programs:hope this helps
          Last edited by reedyd; 7 Aug 2009, 4:45 PM.

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            #6
            CDS Program: CLASS Program

            Thanks for the replies. I got most of my info from the Town Hall Meeting held in Fort Worth.
            Another thing you can check, is the DADS website(do a bing or google search .gov sites) for up to date info on things that are going to change. I received a bunch info on 8/7/09 on all affected programs, i.e. all are under the heading of CDS (Medicaid) Consumer Driven Services. The following are included in the CDS: CBA, Community Waiver Programs: clients who are eligible for institutional care, AAA, AL/RC, ICM (yes, we were told at the meeting that ICM: Integrated Care Management still exists in Texas), CLASS, DAHS, ERS, HMS, MRAs, PCS, PHC and FC Services, LTS, MDCP and some others that weren't put into the presentation.

            Also if a client currently is wanting to get out of a nursing home and to get into another program that is a community waiver program, DADS will authorize up to $2,500 for clients transitioning from a facility (nursing, assisted types of facility) to setup their own household, ie security deposits for leases or to establish utility services, purchasing essential furnishings, paying moving exp. to move into home, paying site prep. Client must be a Medicaid nursing facility resident to be eligible for the TAS: transition assistance services.

            One question to ask when applying for these services is how old can the person be or at what age did the disability happen? Because in CLASS Program you have to have been 21 yrs. old when the disablity/SCI accident occurred or mental retardation (any age).
            Aggie Mom 2007

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              #7
              I spoke at that meeting. By the time I spoke most of the information had been covered. Yes you are right about CLASS. I was 17 and all that. We covered the others maybe not in detail.
              It is the CDS option that we are trying to get the word out about. I apologize in my post I should have left CLASS out of it.
              The CDS option has no age restrictions.
              I already know about this. I'm not looking for info about CDS just trying to let people know about this option. There are many who don't. Even a lot of DHS workers know little or nothing about it.


              Dave
              Last edited by reedyd; 11 Aug 2009, 5:29 PM.

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                #8
                One question that popped up in my mind: Do we also get to decide how many hours we need the caregiver or is that up to either CBA or whatever program you have?

                Something else that I was told was that after we pass on, our home or property becomes property of the CBA unless you applied for services before a particular date which at this time I can't recall. This would leave our inheritors without their inheritance. I believe that the only way it would not be lost to the government would be if the inheritor were to go through some legal procedures. I don't remember it all right now but it would be good to check on all this more I think.

                Raven
                Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. ~Victor Hugo~

                A warrior is not one who always wins,
                but one who keeps on fighting to the end ~ Unknown ~

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Raven View Post
                  One question that popped up in my mind: Do we also get to decide how many hours we need the caregiver or is that up to either CBA or whatever program you have?

                  Something else that I was told was that after we pass on, our home or property becomes property of the CBA unless you applied for services before a particular date which at this time I can't recall. This would leave our inheritors without their inheritance. I believe that the only way it would not be lost to the government would be if the inheritor were to go through some legal procedures. I don't remember it all right now but it would be good to check on all this more I think.

                  Raven
                  You are allowed hours according to your needs, You can choose how many you want to use. Most state programs require recovery. Even state funded nursing home care.

                  Some info here

                  http://www.dads.state.tx.us/services...very/faqs.html

                  there is exceptions

                  i would suggest seeing a good estate planner anytime you have concerns

                  great question

                  thanks

                  David

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                    #10
                    81 Legislature Special Session - Texas

                    Originally posted by reedyd View Post
                    I waited over 8 years for the CLASS program.
                    I am talking mainly about the CDS option there is no waiting list for it.
                    I hear there is supposed to be some openings soon. Have you tried CBA? It is just about as good as CLASS. CLASS pays more per hour for an attendent but it has the modifications program also.
                    They have other programs for children and other needs.

                    It may be worth it in the long run to endure 30 days in a nursing home to get on CLASS.





                    CDS is available to consumers in the following programs:hope this helps


                    reedyd:

                    Checkout the 81st Legislature Texas Special Session Mtg. Alot of these programs are going to go to Sunset vote in 2013. They were going to vote on SB 2 to expire in 2011, but the vote made the decision for SB 2 to be delayed and re-evaluated in 2013. I couldn't believe that DADS/DARS and HHSC programs were going to expire 2013. So I did some checking out on bing.com and came up with the actually vote on the SB 2 and the items that were going to be sunsetted (expired). I don't know what people are going to do in Texas if this does happen in 2013. One of the website http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...s=811&Bill=SB2. There are according to Texas statistics 1.2 million people with some type of disability using these services.
                    Aggie Mom 2007

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jhorn4012 View Post
                      reedyd:

                      Checkout the 81st Legislature Texas Special Session Mtg. Alot of these programs are going to go to Sunset vote in 2013. They were going to vote on SB 2 to expire in 2011, but the vote made the decision for SB 2 to be delayed and re-evaluated in 2013. I couldn't believe that DADS/DARS and HHSC programs were going to expire 2013. So I did some checking out on bing.com and came up with the actually vote on the SB 2 and the items that were going to be sunsetted (expired). I don't know what people are going to do in Texas if this does happen in 2013. One of the website http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...s=811&Bill=SB2. There are according to Texas statistics 1.2 million people with some type of disability using these services.
                      You know I used to survive on 24 hours per week. Since CLASS started it has only has grown both bigger and better. It is cheaper to fund a person to live on there own than in a nursing home.
                      Personally, I am not concerned about the possibility of this program closing because I live life based on what means are available.
                      Do you really believe that all those programs will end?
                      I am an optimist and not concerned that it might end. Nostradamus and the Mayas calculated the world will end in 2012.
                      I do not know all the answers and started made this thread so that
                      anyone truly interested and needs it will know that it is an option.
                      The Agencies are not going to tell you about it.
                      With this program they are not getting a part of the money that could be going to a caregiver.
                      With this program you can get supplies from a Durable Medical Equipment Company and not have to be homebound to legally get supplies.
                      With this program you are not told what your employees can and can not do by an agency.


                      Thanks,

                      David
                      Last edited by reedyd; 11 Sep 2009, 7:02 PM.

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                        #12
                        Programs in Texas Sunsetted

                        Originally posted by reedyd View Post
                        You know I used to survive on 24 hours per week. Since CLASS started it has only has grown both bigger and better. It is cheaper to fund a person to live on there own than in a nursing home.
                        Personally, I am not concerned about the possibility of this program closing because I live life based on what means are available.
                        Do you really believe that all those programs will end?
                        I am an optimist and not concerned that it might end. Nostradamus and the Mayas calculated the world will end in 2012.
                        I do not know all the answers and started made this thread so that
                        anyone truly interested and needs it will know that it is an option.
                        The Agencies are not going to tell you about it.
                        With this program they are not getting a part of the money that could be going to a caregiver.
                        With this program you can get supplies from a Durable Medical Equipment Company and not have to be homebound to legally get supplies.
                        With this program you are not told what your employees can and can not do by an agency.


                        Thanks,

                        David
                        David,

                        This is no BS. This is from the Legislature here in Texas. Try this link: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...s=811&Bill=SB2 this gives the actual vote. Do a search in bing.com on 81st Legislature Texas Bills SB2. My daughter's number on the waiting list for CLASS Program is 20,270. I don't think there is any chance of getting her into this program. What a gentleman from DADS told me is the only way she would be put at the top of the list is if she was put in a nursing facility for a month. That's not going to happen. I feel bad enough that the state is paying for her tuition to finish her degree. She was going to LSU before her accident and working and paying her own way ever since she graduated from high school.
                        Aggie Mom 2007

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                          #13
                          the sunset act applies to over 150 agencies. if your daughter is on CBA you can get on CDS right now
                          Send me a PM with your phone number and i will tell you about it
                          you will have funds 10,000 per year for mods alone
                          i started on CDS while on CBA.

                          don't worry about the sunset act

                          if i can help anyone learn about CDS just let me know

                          David


                          http://www.ctasrs.org/legislative.php
                          Last edited by reedyd; 27 Sep 2009, 4:08 PM.

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                            #14
                            The lady you are referring to that was paid 14.00 had children with very special needs. I live this program everyday and the most that I am allowed per hourly unit is right at 13.00 the company or Consumer Directed Services Agency (CDSA) that does the checks, taxes, bookkeeping etc get 1.00 per hour or per unit. This allows me to pay 10.00 an hour plus bonuses.
                            VNA is not going to pay you much more because they do not do the CDS program and they are in business to make some profit as a agency.
                            I do hope this helps you to understand. At some point you have to make a decision. CBA will not pay as much as CLASS per hour but VNA will never pay you maximum because they will get their share this is how they make money. You can only get this through CDS. Writing a congressman will not change what you get from VNA.
                            The most my best help got paid while with an agency was 7.50 hourly With CBA and the CDS option I could pay 8.00 hourly on CLASS with CDS option I pay 10.00 hourly

                            here is an example of a typical CLASS partiipant case http://kevin-ferguson.com/class.html
                            I use IHAS as my Consumer Directed Services Agency (CDSA) also

                            Hope this helps
                            Last edited by reedyd; 27 Sep 2009, 6:07 PM.

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                              #15
                              CDS Program

                              Reedyd I just sent you a PM on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

                              Thanks,
                              CJ'S-MOM
                              ELAINE

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