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    Okay, by now some of u know I'm a c4-5 incomplete quad. I have most arm movement, so so balance and was wondering how much independence have others gained.
    Reason> I can transfer from chair to bed but can't put my feet up on the bed, any ideAs?

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    I can't even transfer
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    I can but, have the same (or similar) problem
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    I'm passed that, I can do that and more
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    Someone does it for me so, why bother?
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    Thoughts become things, choose the good ones!

  • #2
    My son is a C4-5 and can't manage transfers, because he has so little triceps; can't 'lock' his arms out to support the weight.

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    • #3
      how far are you post? It takes as long as 3 years for a sci to say they are confident doing everything (car, bed, toilet, floor transferes). I had the problem of not being able to get my legs up at first but as time goes by you learn how to do it (if you have sufficiant movement in your arms). My spasms assist me in getting my legs up but I'm having a baclofen pump soon so will have to re-learn how to do it differently.

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      • #4
        Leg Strap

        Pollett,
        I had the same problem but what my PT/OT's did was give me a velcro strap which I pass under my thighs and around the top. Then once I'm on the bed I hook my arm (wrist level) thru it and fall backwards while pulling up on my legs. It works great! It does take strong biceps and maybe some triceps but it may be worth a try (anything so you can go to bed on your own...) If you have any questions post here or email me
        Emi [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

        "Each moment in time we have it all, even when we think we don't."
        --Melody Beattie, writer and counselor
        Emily, C-8 sensory incomplete mom to a 8 year old and a preschooler. TEN! years post.

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        • #5
          Polett

          A short bungee cord with a loop on one end might do the trick.

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          • #6
            Well, I'm 14 years post. The thing is I learned to do this when I was 14, (and 10000 pounds less) I'm now 140 pounds (about) and 5.4 tall so, of course, A LOT MORE TO PULL, I didnt keep up with my transfers for other reasons so I lost it. I tried the leg strap, it pulls my legs up but not onto the bed, I just bounce back n foward cause my abdominals r not that strong but, thats almost the way I used to do it b4, only that instead of a strap I used my arm wraping myself under the thighs than pullin back and in (i guess a water and lettuce diet would come handy now [img]/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ). Well, any other ideas?

            Me.
            Thoughts become things, choose the good ones!

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            • #7
              I envy you. I am also a C4/5 or a C-5/6 (it depends on what medical professional you're talking to), 2 1/2 years post-injury.. Anyway, I can't transfer at all. I have arm movements and some torso muscles, but no triceps, thumb or fingers. Could you please tell me your secret. Every therapist I've seen has said they don't know of any females at my level that had been able to transfer independently. I've been exercising consistently for the last six months, so maybe I'll get strong enough.

              Serena

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              • #8
                Serena:

                Here is what I do:
                I have a sliding board with the openings on the ends to fit my hand in. I park next to the bed, pull both of my feet together on the footrest (of the chair) closest to the bed, MAKE SURE they r well positioned on the footrest, if the r not, a spasm will let them out too easy, increasing your chances of falling. Then take the armrest of, I put my hand in the opposite end of the board up to my wrist and start wiggling it under my butt till its past one cheek, the board is then under me and on top of the bed. Then i put my right hand (bed is on my left)behind me between my butt and the back of the chair, lock it, put the other arm on top of the board lock it, then push up and wiggle to the side, relocate arms and repeat. If this sounds possible to u let me know and i'll be more detailed and continue on the rest.

                Me.
                Thoughts become things, choose the good ones!

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                • #9
                  How long did it take you to recover some arm fucntion?

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                  • #10
                    I'm functionally c6 with no triceps to speak of.
                    I was 5'9 standing, but i believe I'm more like 6' with all the loose joints, etc...I'm kinda like a loooong string of spagetti and whenever I'd try those sliding transfers my legs would drag me dowwwwwwwwwwwn - on the floor!
                    Anyway, someone showed me an excellent way to transfer that needs no triceps, and no danger.

                    you pull up straight ahead facing the bed. Lock your brakes! Get close enough to get your legs up in front of you.
                    Put both legs up straight out on the bed - one at a time.
                    Roll chair forward against the bed (or as close a your casters will allow).
                    Scoot your but forward to the edge of your chair.
                    throw your arms forward on to the bed so you're in a sitting position with your arms supporting you. Scoot forward till you're safely on the bed. You'll have to do a bit of positioning on the bed, but at least you're there safely.

                    If there's a gap between bed and chair, stick a soft pillow in the hole to bridge. Do not stop to rest on the pillow, you will get "stuck butt"
                    and be screwed!

                    Does this make any sense?
                    peace
                    alissa
                    "We must become the change we want to see in the world." Gandhi

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                    • #11
                      In bed, one leg at a time.

                      I'm an incomplete c4-5, just passed 17months post injury. I can do almost all my transfers alone. Getting in bed, this is what I do.

                      I start off by taking my shoes off, then wheel over to my bed, bed is on me right side, I am facing towards the foot of the bed. I do this so when I get out of bed my chair is already in a good spot to transfer, I dont have to do anything just transfer to it.

                      Next I scoot my rear out to the edge of my chair, lift up my right leg by putting my left arm under thigh, then slide my transfer board under my rear using my right hand, I hold the board at the hole closest to me. My transfer board has hand cutouts on each end.

                      Next I move my right hand to the opposite end of the board, while sort of pulling the board toward me with my right hand and pushing off of the left wheel on my chair with my left hand, I transfer to the bed.

                      After i'm on the bed, I remove the board, my feet are still on my footrest, well sort of hanging on/off. I brace myself with my right arm behind me, lift my right leg with my left arm under the thing, I pull my leg on the bed. Once on the bed, I reach down and pull my left leg up with my right arm under thigh.

                      At this point, I am sorta sitting on my right hip, from here I position myself so I can remove my pants.

                      Thats it, it's actually a lot easier than it sounds. I have a little left tricep, no right tricep and no hand function.

                      email me if you have questions.
                      Michael

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                      • #12
                        Okay, my transfer is almost the same but putting my legs up is the prob. Now, if I pull one leg up, i'll fall back and then I'm stuck [img]/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] can u explain again how u manage to not fall back?
                        Allisa, even though spasm r mercyfull on me, after having both feet up and sliding foward, it's too easy for me too spasm and push my torso back [img]/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] besides, that wiggleing to turn around is right now more than I can handle but, its an idea if I get a stool or something to put my feet up and transfer still sideways... gotta try [img]/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
                        thanx
                        Sharon: It took me years and still 14 years post, when i need to learn to do something new, i manage to strengthen somewhere i didin't know i had... Don't give up [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

                        Me.
                        Thoughts become things, choose the good ones!

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