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    http://www.cuaj.ca/index.php/journal...File/4434/3273
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    Thanks for posting this.

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    • #3
      That's fantastic. Love that there is now data behind this. I've been doing it for nearly ten years, monthly, since an antibiotic resistant infection nearly killed me my 2nd year with SCI, and I haven't had a UTI since. 10 years clean!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Oddity View Post
        That's fantastic. Love that there is now data behind this. I've been doing it for nearly ten years, monthly, since an antibiotic resistant infection nearly killed me my 2nd year with SCI, and I haven't had a UTI since. 10 years clean!

        Monthly? What do you mean by monthly?

        My Dad has been instilling Gent twice a day for approaching 3 years.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hlh View Post
          Monthly? What do you mean by monthly?

          My Dad has been instilling Gent twice a day for approaching 3 years.
          Well, I dunno, but if that's what his Urologist has ordered, then that's what he should do.

          I used it 2x a day for a month directly following my resistant UTI in 2008, then 2x a day (50cc) for 5 days once a month since then. That's basically one compounding with a 500cc saline solution bottle. I've skipped a few months here and there, when I get lazy and over it, it's kind of a pain sometimes to fiddle with, and the longer I go without a UTI the less concerned I seem to become, so I probably only use it 8-10 times a year, realistically speaking.
          "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

          "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

          "Even what those with the greatest reputation for knowing it all claim to understand and defend are but opinions..." -Heraclitus, Fragments

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          • #6
            Good info, thanks for posting.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Oddity View Post
              Well, I dunno, but if that's what his Urologist has ordered, then that's what he should do.

              I used it 2x a day for a month directly following my resistant UTI in 2008, then 2x a day (50cc) for 5 days once a month since then. That's basically one compounding with a 500cc saline solution bottle. I've skipped a few months here and there, when I get lazy and over it, it's kind of a pain sometimes to fiddle with, and the longer I go without a UTI the less concerned I seem to become, so I probably only use it 8-10 times a year, realistically speaking.

              Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

              I suspect we are all doing it differently, so it is useful to hear your situation.

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              • #8
                Dale, 10 yrs is very impressive, if i may ask, can you outline your cathing routine ? if you'd rather u can pm me.

                i really liked reading how this actually REDUCES antibiotic resistance.
                Originally posted by Oddity View Post
                That's fantastic. Love that there is now data behind this. I've been doing it for nearly ten years, monthly, since an antibiotic resistant infection nearly killed me my 2nd year with SCI, and I haven't had a UTI since. 10 years clean!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fuentejps View Post
                  Dale, 10 yrs is very impressive, if i may ask, can you outline your cathing routine ? if you'd rather u can pm me.

                  i really liked reading how this actually REDUCES antibiotic resistance.
                  No worries. I don't really have a routine. I just pee when I feel like it. I have a fair amount of sensory sparring (T12 neuro level but L5-S sensory, and ~L3 motor, especially down my left side, e.g. I can feel my left nut, left side of penis, and down my leg to just above the ankle, can move my left leg except the ankle, etc. Right side sensory stops at my knee, motor at hip.) So, I have a decent notion of when I need to pee, so I let that guide me. I'd call it "lucky" but the pain levels associated with my sensory sparring hardly feel like I've been "sparred" anything!


                  Edit: Ya know, I just cath'd and was reminded I do one thing that most doctors/nurses/specialist say doesn't make any difference: I sanitize my metus area just prior to insertion with a little squirt of either non-BZK hand sanitizer, or Microcyn, whichever is handy. I know, I know, "studies haven't shown" it to make any difference, but of course that doesn't mean it doesn't, for some. Until they study everything using the population of everyone I'm sticking with what has obviously been working for me!
                  Last edited by Oddity; 01-18-2018, 02:02 PM.
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                  "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

                  "Even what those with the greatest reputation for knowing it all claim to understand and defend are but opinions..." -Heraclitus, Fragments

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Oddity View Post
                    I just cath'd and was reminded I do one thing that most doctors/nurses/specialist say doesn't make any difference: I sanitize my metus area just prior to insertion with a little squirt of either non-BZK hand sanitizer, or Microcyn.
                    I do the same thing. Show this study to anyone who tells you it doesn't make a difference.
                    Last edited by August West; 01-18-2018, 09:03 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Excellent thank you.
                      "I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it." - Edgar Allen Poe

                      "If you only know your side of an issue, you know nothing." -John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

                      "Even what those with the greatest reputation for knowing it all claim to understand and defend are but opinions..." -Heraclitus, Fragments

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oddity View Post
                        no worries. I don't really have a routine. I just pee when i feel like it. I have a fair amount of sensory sparring (t12 neuro level but l5-s sensory, and ~l3 motor, especially down my left side, e.g. I can feel my left nut, left side of penis, and down my leg to just above the ankle, can move my left leg except the ankle, etc. Right side sensory stops at my knee, motor at hip.) so, i have a decent notion of when i need to pee, so i let that guide me. I'd call it "lucky" but the pain levels associated with my sensory sparring hardly feel like i've been "sparred" anything!


                        edit: Ya know, i just cath'd and was reminded i do one thing that most doctors/nurses/specialist say doesn't make any difference: I sanitize my metus area just prior to insertion with a little squirt of either non-bzk hand sanitizer, or microcyn, whichever is handy. I know, i know, "studies haven't shown" it to make any difference, but of course that doesn't mean it doesn't, for some. Until they study everything using the population of everyone i'm sticking with what has obviously been working for me!
                        i use 2 wet ones on penis head area b4 inserting cath, always.
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                        • #13
                          Isn't that pricey compared to washing with soap and water then a spray of microcyn? But then again, it might not be. Definitely easier.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by August West View Post
                            Isn't that pricey compared to washing with soap and water then a spray of microcyn? But then again, it might not be. Definitely easier.
                            its not bad. not nearly as messy either.
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                            • #15
                              Thanks for sharing the data
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