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    Does anyone here know anything about Vetericyn ? I have a small skin irritation mark (due to my leg rubbing up against the vehicle during transfers) and I was wondering what people can tell me about it. Pro's con's ?
    www.adventuresofcolinandheather.blogspot.com !

    #2
    Hi Colin,
    There is quite a bit of information on the internet about the use of Microcyn (Vetericyn, Puracyn, Dermacyn) for wound care. And, if you could find it on this website (website is having a lot of difficulty because of trying to convert to a new version of software), there is a lot of information here. Try searching for "microcyn wound care cheryl bongiovanni." Dr. Bongiovanni has a practice for wound care and has had great success in using these products.

    All the best,
    GJ

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      #3
      Vetericyn is a product primarily produced for animals. Some people on this forum use it for a bladder flush to prevent UTIs. Apparently, after searching the internet I discovered it is also used for skin and wound treatments for animals as well. I am not personally familiar with the product nor have not recommended it for my patients as a bladder flush or as a skin/wound treatment.

      For a recurrent skin shear/irritation there are plenty of products you can try that are approved for humans. If you bump up against something with your skin over and over, you can put duoderm. If the skin is sheared and slightly opened xenaderm emollient is very good as an anti-microbial and provides glide to prevent shear.

      I would recommend that you discuss your skin issue with a wheelchair team or with a provider who is familiar with wound care products.

      pbr
      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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        #4
        Just a minor correction - Vetericyn is marketed for animals. The product is virtually the same as the variants marketed for the human variety. The reason so many of us here choose Vetericyn is because it's easily available and it's cheaper. But basically the same stuff.

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          #5
          What about Puracyn ? I've heard it's supposed to be the human version of Vetericyn.
          www.adventuresofcolinandheather.blogspot.com !

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            #6
            I think for skin abrasions that are not more than surface skin deep you'll find Xenaderm stays put better as the area absorbs it. I understand Puracyn is either a liquid or a liquid used in a mister. If you know where you rub and can fix that then slap duoderm or a hydrocolloid bandage that you can get over the counter on it. I think for the hip area a hydrocolloid would probably work best and protect it while it heals and you find a work around on the transfers. I use Xenaderm on areas where bandages don't stick well like my tailbone. Strangely enough the FDA no longer considers Xenaderm effective for wound care but you still need a prescription to get it. You may wind up out of pocket on it though but that tube will last a very long time. With an OTC hydrocolloid you just stick it on like a sticker and leave it be. It breaths but is waterproof to the outside. It'll shrink and roll up on its own. An old PTA of mine loved those for scraped knees playing baseball. Just used sterile saline in a spray bottle to get the gravel out, swap once with betadine, wait a few then rinse again with the saline , pat dry and stick one on. He'd be all ready to go for his next slide into home plate.

            Most of the difference in drugs common to both companion or domesticated animals is in what conditons they are manufactured and in the packaging. Human grade requires a slightly higher degree of sterility and more inspections by the FDA.
            Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

            Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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              #7
              Thank you all for your responses !
              www.adventuresofcolinandheather.blogspot.com !

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                #8
                Here are some references regarding the use of Microcyn, Puracyn, Dermacyn, Vetericyn (all virtually the same formulation except Vetericyn VF which is about double the strength of regular Vetericyn).

                Dr. Cheryl Bongiovanni, Lakeview Wound Care Clinic, in Lakeview, Oregon has had outstanding results with Microcyn for wound care. During a recent visit to my dermatologist, I noticed a bottle of Microcyn on a shelf. I asked the doctor about his view of Microcyn in his practice and he said, it is "wonder water."

                http://allnurses.com/general-nursing...sa-490931.html

                http://www.wlfi.com/news/local_wlfi_...ution_20090323

                http://diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/...abetic-ulcers/

                http://gevingmedical.com/uploads/2/8...ology12.10.pdf

                This article written by our own Suzanne Lewis: http://microcyn.blogspot.com/2011/01...proach-to.html

                http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...calresearch.uk

                http://www.oculus.com.mx/mp/audio/Oc...cript71807.pdf

                http://www.vetscite.org/publish/items/003746/index.html

                http://microsafecare.com/BACKUP/wound_vid_drchyrl2.asp


                All the best,
                GJ

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                  #9
                  Microcyn and Vetericyn are identical products only having different labels. Vetericyn VF is a more powerful version of Microcyn. Microcyn (Oculus, Inc.) is preparing for clinical trial testing on a product which is the same as Vetericyn VF but is buffered slightly more. Microcyn IS FDA approved for use in treating burns, cuts, wound debridding and pressure ulcers and is covered under insurances when prescribed for this type use. (The clinical testing will be for approval for bladder flushing.) I have spoken with a Development Scientist with Oculus Innovative Sciences (Seattle, WA) within the last two weeks regarding the above clinical testing.

                  The reason we (me) have been using Vetericyn VF is it is more powerful and is lower priced. Microcyn, Vetericyn & Puracyn are all the same, just labeled differently.

                  I hope this helps.
                  Millard
                  ''Life's tough... it's even tougher if you're stupid!'' -- John Wayne

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