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    Hi, I have been treated for C. Diff for 14 days with Flagyl and about 7 or 8 days with oral Vancomycin plus oral Flagyl. I am also taking Florastor 500mg BID as well as a regular probiotic. My stool is still very loose and mushy. It's not watery like when I had full blown C. Diff and it doesn't smell so terrible, but I would have thought that with these meds plus the Florastor that my stool would have returned to somewhat normal by now.

  • #2
    Have you started taking a fiber supplement. Fiber supplements are interesting, they are used for the treatment of constipation and diarrhea.

    Fiber soaks up water and adds bulk.

    Constipation: fiber pulls water out of the colon and makes the stool softer and easier for the walls of the colon to move stool through.

    Diarrhea: lots of liquid in the stool, fiber will absorb water and firm up the stool.

    In addition to foods you eat, you may need help in getting the amount of fiber you need. Metamucil, Citricel, Benefiber are good sources of soluble fiber.

    All the best,
    GJ

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    • #3
      Originally posted by gjnl View Post
      Have you started taking a fiber supplement. Fiber supplements are interesting, they are used for the treatment of constipation and diarrhea.

      Fiber soaks up water and adds bulk.

      Constipation: fiber pulls water out of the colon and makes the stool softer and easier for the walls of the colon to move stool through.

      Diarrhea: lots of liquid in the stool, fiber will absorb water and firm up the stool.

      In addition to foods you eat, you may need help in getting the amount of fiber you need. Metamucil, Citricel, Benefiber are good sources of soluble fiber.

      All the best,
      GJ
      I've been taking 2 Immodium to help firm up the stool and also taking Vitafusion Fiber Gummies.

      I ran out of Benefiber. I will go out today and get some Citrucel.

      Should I follow up with a GP or a GI doctor once my antibiotics are done?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jbridges9 View Post
        Should I follow up with a GP or a GI doctor once my antibiotics are done?
        Who was directing your care in the hospital and prescribing the antibiotics?
        I would follow up with that doctor when you are finished with antibiotics.

        All the best,
        GJ

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        • #5
          That was a doctor in the hospital, not someone I've seen before. He doesn't have a doctor outside of there I believe.

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          • #6
            That question seems to be up for debate. You might find the answer you're looking for at the C diff support group here:
            http://www.cdiffdiscuss.org/phpBB3/index.php

            Hopefully, SCI-Nurse will chime in here on your thread.
            get busy living or get busy dying

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            • #7
              There have been increasing problems with intractable and drug resistant strains of c. diff., esp. if acquired in a hospital.

              An infectious disease specialist physician would be important if you have failed treatment for c. diff with both the regimens you mentioned.

              The newest (and of course most expensive) drug for the treatment of c. diff. is an oral drug called Dificid (fidaxomicin). It has only been on the market for the last year and a half. At our hospital, in order to get it, you must first fail with both Flagyl and Vancomycin, and only upon the prescription from an infectious disease specialist can get get Dificid.

              http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disor...o-treat-c-diff

              I would caution you about using Imodium or any regular diarrhea drug (Kaopectate, etc.) while still infected with c. diff., as that can keep the toxins in your body and increases your risk for developing serious c. diff. complications such as necrotizing colitis.

              (KLD)
              The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                There have been increasing problems with intractable and drug resistant strains of c. diff., esp. if acquired in a hospital.

                An infectious disease specialist physician would be important if you have failed treatment for c. diff with both the regimens you mentioned.

                The newest (and of course most expensive) drug for the treatment of c. diff. is an oral drug called Dificid (fidaxomicin). It has only been on the market for the last year and a half. At our hospital, in order to get it, you must first fail with both Flagyl and Vancomycin, and only upon the prescription from an infectious disease specialist can get get Dificid.

                http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disor...o-treat-c-diff

                I would caution you about using Imodium or any regular diarrhea drug (Kaopectate, etc.) while still infected with c. diff., as that can keep the toxins in your body and increases your risk for developing serious c. diff. complications such as necrotizing colitis.

                (KLD)
                My body "feels" dfferent now . I am not super clenched up and not super spastic like I was.

                Mine was not acquired in a hospital It was acquired after the usage of antibiotics back to back for 1o-14 days at a time for my UTI.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jbridges9 View Post
                  My body "feels" dfferent now . I am not super clenched up and not super spastic like I was.

                  Mine was not acquired in a hospital It was acquired after the usage of antibiotics back to back for 1o-14 days at a time for my UTI.
                  For what it's worth, this member "Roy" has been contributing to the C diff discussion group since 2007. Here is what he has to say, regarding treatment without having symptoms:

                  http://www.cdiffdiscuss.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10324#p62032

                  roy wrote:
                  > Again a test after c.diff that's positive!
                  > That's exactly why the guidelines say don't test to try And prove a cure,
                  > The test is next to useless because some folks can test positive for > several weeks after being "cured" but have no symptoms.
                  > Others can have severe symptoms but the antibiotics mask the result and it
                  > comes back negative.
                  > Wise Drs treat on symptoms alone
                  Roy
                  Not my advice, and I don't know where Roy gets his info, but like I say, for what it's worth… Personally, I would prefer having a specialist involved, like SCI-Nurse advised, if at all possible.

                  ETA: I realize you are saying you're not sure whether you're having symptoms are not (I think that's what you're saying). Just giving another perspective over there. All the best!
                  get busy living or get busy dying

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                  • #10
                    "I would caution you about using Imodium or any regular diarrhea drug (Kaopectate, etc.) while still infected with c. diff., as that can keep the toxins in your body and increases your risk for developing serious c. diff. complications such as necrotizing colitis. KLD"

                    Ditto! Drink lots of liquids and try and stick to the BRAT diet plus some protein. Immodium just keeps the bacteria inside and you want them to leave.
                    Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow."

                    Disclaimer: Answers, suggestions, and/or comments do not constitute medical advice expressed or implied and are based solely on my experiences as a SCI patient. Please consult your attending physician for medical advise and treatment. In the event of a medical emergency please call 911.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sue Pendleton View Post
                      "I would caution you about using Imodium or any regular diarrhea drug (Kaopectate, etc.) while still infected with c. diff., as that can keep the toxins in your body and increases your risk for developing serious c. diff. complications such as necrotizing colitis. KLD"

                      Ditto! Drink lots of liquids and try and stick to the BRAT diet plus some protein. Immodium just keeps the bacteria inside and you want them to leave.
                      Exactly, keep that crap flowing!
                      get busy living or get busy dying

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sue Pendleton View Post
                        "I would caution you about using Imodium or any regular diarrhea drug (Kaopectate, etc.) while still infected with c. diff., as that can keep the toxins in your body and increases your risk for developing serious c. diff. complications such as necrotizing colitis. KLD"

                        Ditto! Drink lots of liquids and try and stick to the BRAT diet plus some protein. Immodium just keeps the bacteria inside and you want them to leave.
                        I stopped the Imodium and ate 2 bananas and 1 applesauce yesterday, and had 2 servings of citrucel (1 tablespoon mixed in 3 oz of water) and I had a huge accident overnight.

                        My stool is still very soft and loose, more like mushy.. 2 days left of flagyl and vanco and still on the florastor...... started having some spasms return in the middle of the night like when I had full blown C. Diff. except not nearly as bad.. scared it;s coming back..

                        Help, please!

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                        • #13
                          Just saw that stool treatment may becomming mainstream soon http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...olon-germ?lite
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                          • #14
                            I guess you have posted this question in two areas. C Diff is difficult to get rid of and you should get re-tested after completion of this medication to see if it is out of your system. Immodium is not recommended. Keep drinking liquids BRAT diet (bananas applesauce, rice, toast) bland stuff.

                            Hang in there.

                            pbr
                            The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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