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    When I come across a catheter that flows really well I would like to clean them and re-use them. What technique do you use to insure the catheter is bug free?

    #2
    You can not insure that anything will be bacteria free once it has been used. However, you can make sure that it is cleaned to the best of your ability. However, not all catheters are made to be reused, so please keep that in mind.

    CKF
    The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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      #3
      My technique:

      Wash each catheter w/ antibacterial liquid soap, shake excess water out, dry each in a new (every time) brown paper lunch bag.

      Been doing so since 1999. It's a clean technique, not sterile.

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        #4
        Originally posted by -scott- View Post
        My technique:

        Wash each catheter w/ antibacterial liquid soap, shake excess water out, dry each in a new (every time) brown paper lunch bag.

        Been doing so since 1999. It's a clean technique, not sterile.
        I did the same (antibacterial liquid soap) for years, but I put them on a paper towel to dry.
        C5/C6

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          #5
          I had two white washcloths sewn together w/zipper for drying.

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            #6
            used to wash them with soap then boil them, but after getting medicare it covers 200 catheters per month so no more boiling.
            c6/7 incomplete 6/30/07

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              #7
              I can tell you what does not work. I was travelling and got stuck and only had purell (never leave home without it). So I basically would push the catheter into the purell bottle, let it sit there, then took it out, wiped off the purell with a benzo wipe and used it. Got the worst UTI of my life.

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                #8
                Originally posted by NWC4 View Post
                When I come across a catheter that flows really well I would like to clean them and re-use them. What technique do you use to insure the catheter is bug free?
                Do you use the same brand and type catheter all the time, but find differences in flow rate in the same brand and type of catheter? I am surprised you can perceive a difference from one catheter to the other in the same brand and type.

                All the best,
                GJ

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by gjnl View Post
                  Do you use the same brand and type catheter all the time, but find differences in flow rate in the same brand and type of catheter? I am surprised you can perceive a difference from one catheter to the other in the same brand and type.

                  All the best,
                  GJ
                  Yes, I use Rusch silicone coated and Kendall 100% silicone. I have had this issue for years and have only run into 2 other quads that have the same issue. The difference is like night and day. It's not that the "bad" catheters do not flow, they do, just not freely. One can visibly see the difference in flow rate by just watching the urine flow through the clear tube of a drain bag when the tube is placed a loop. When a bad one is in I start feeling lousy, similar to flu like symptoms and I can feel my bladder and kidney start hurting. It doesn't get to the point of dysreflexia (sp). A good example is about two weeks ago I started a antibiotic for a UTI, had been on it 2 days and wasn't feeling any better. I had only output about 1/5 of a gallon in 24 hours. It was dark even though I had been drinking lke a horse. Decided the catheter was the problem. Changed it and went to sleep for 3 hours. When I woke up I had output over a half gallon, the color was light yellow and felt 95% better.

                  With a good catheter I do not even notice my bladder and kidneys. Right now I do!

                  See this thread for more:
                  https://www.carecure.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190911

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NWC4 View Post
                    Yes, I use Rusch silicone coated and Kendall 100% silicone. I have had this issue for years and have only run into 2 other quads that have the same issue. The difference is like night and day. It's not that the "bad" catheters do not flow, they do, just not freely. One can visibly see the difference in flow rate by just watching the urine flow through the clear tube of a drain bag when the tube is placed a loop. When a bad one is in I start feeling lousy, similar to flu like symptoms and I can feel my bladder and kidney start hurting. It doesn't get to the point of dysreflexia (sp). A good example is about two weeks ago I started a antibiotic for a UTI, had been on it 2 days and wasn't feeling any better. I had only output about 1/5 of a gallon in 24 hours. It was dark even though I had been drinking lke a horse. Decided the catheter was the problem. Changed it and went to sleep for 3 hours. When I woke up I had output over a half gallon, the color was light yellow and felt 95% better.

                    With a good catheter I do not even notice my bladder and kidneys. Right now I do!

                    See this thread for more:
                    https://www.carecure.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190911
                    Your initial post does not make it clear that you use a suprapubic catheter. I thought you were trying to reuse catheters for clean intermittent catheterization (CIC), which before Medicare and private insurance companies approved 200 straight catheters a month was standard practice for most of us who manage(d) our bladders with CIC.

                    However, you should NEVER reuse a foley catheter in a suprapubic. The foley catheter should be sterile and placed into the bladder through the stoma using sterile insertion technique. A used foley catheter is not sterile and you are running a great risk of infection each time you do this.

                    Talk to you doctor about your flow problems. He may have some suggestions.

                    All the best,
                    GJ
                    Last edited by gjnl; 25 Nov 2012, 11:39 PM.

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                      #11
                      I totally echo GJ's comments. It is one thing to reuse catheters made for that purpose, totally another to reuse them when it is not made for that purpose. Only in a TRUE emergency, like you burst the balloon of the catheter that you just put in and need to get something in quick and have no other catheters, would I tell you to reuse a foley catheter, whether it is urethral or suprapubic. Please be very careful!!!!!
                      CKF
                      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SCI-Nurse View Post
                        I totally echo GJ's comments. It is one thing to reuse catheters made for that purpose, totally another to reuse them when it is not made for that purpose. Only in a TRUE emergency, like you burst the balloon of the catheter that you just put in and need to get something in quick and have no other catheters, would I tell you to reuse a foley catheter, whether it is urethral or suprapubic. Please be very careful!!!!!
                        CKF
                        Edit: (Decided to rephrase my comments)
                        You should never be in a position that you need to reuse a foley catheter in a suprapubic stoma. You should always have enough of a back up supply that your can insert a sterile foley catheter, using sterile insertion technique.
                        If we learned anything from Hurricane Sandy, it is that there will be disruption in our lives in a disaster situation. We should try to have a back up supply of medications, catheters, bowel management supplies etc. And as SCI nurse CKF asserts, things can happen to catheters that would require you to have an extra on hand.

                        All the best,
                        GJ
                        Last edited by gjnl; 26 Nov 2012, 4:06 PM.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NWC4 View Post
                          Yes, I use Rusch silicone coated and Kendall 100% silicone. I have had this issue for years and have only run into 2 other quads that have the same issue. The difference is like night and day. It's not that the "bad" catheters do not flow, they do, just not freely. One can visibly see the difference in flow rate by just watching the urine flow through the clear tube of a drain bag when the tube is placed a loop. When a bad one is in I start feeling lousy, similar to flu like symptoms and I can feel my bladder and kidney start hurting. It doesn't get to the point of dysreflexia (sp). A good example is about two weeks ago I started a antibiotic for a UTI, had been on it 2 days and wasn't feeling any better. I had only output about 1/5 of a gallon in 24 hours. It was dark even though I had been drinking lke a horse. Decided the catheter was the problem. Changed it and went to sleep for 3 hours. When I woke up I had output over a half gallon, the color was light yellow and felt 95% better.
                          With a good catheter I do not even notice my bladder and kidneys. Right now I do!

                          See this thread for more:
                          https://www.carecure.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190911
                          It is hard for me to grasp the notion that there is so much variation in these mass produced catheters that you find so many that don't flow quickly enough to drain your bladder before you start having the symptoms you describe. I can't imagine getting "bad" catheters regularly, (it has happened just a couple of times to me) especially if you are using two different manufacturers.

                          So I am wondering if your problem is caused by something other than the catheter. Is is possible that you are producing sediment that clogs the catheters? Is it possible that there are kinks in the connecting tubing? Is it possible that the anti-reflux valve in your leg bag is stuck and not functioning as it should?

                          All the best,
                          GJ
                          Last edited by gjnl; 26 Nov 2012, 10:45 PM.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by t8burst View Post
                            I can tell you what does not work. I was travelling and got stuck and only had purell (never leave home without it). So I basically would push the catheter into the purell bottle, let it sit there, then took it out, wiped off the purell with a benzo wipe and used it. Got the worst UTI of my life.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by christopher View Post
                              Ow ow ow ow ow.
                              What? The purell? I have used it as lube a couple times in a pinch. Didn't feel a thing

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