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    i was wondering how much of an effect on healing using chewing tobacco would have.... i know when you smoke the build up of tar in your lungs decreases the ability to absorb oxygen. so what does smokeless tobacco do to effect healing abilities?

    i'm curious because i have a sore and want to know if i'm slowing down the healing process.


    btw, after i reread everything above i realize just how ridiculous i sound...
    -C6 incomplete
    -injured January, 14th 2006 in roll-over

  • #2
    wondered this myself......

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    • #3
      ha, figured i'd be the only one...
      -C6 incomplete
      -injured January, 14th 2006 in roll-over

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      • #4
        All tobacco products will cause small vascular to constrict and resist bloodflow to a sore and make it harder to heal. My doctor wouldn't do surgery on one of my sores until I quit smoking. In other words, any tobacco products are really bad for spinal cord injured person making sores easier to get. I'm sure the nurse will chime in with more.
        C-5/6, 7-9-2000
        Scottsdale, AZ

        Make the best out of today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come. Nobody knows that better than those of us that have almost died from spinal cord injury.

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        • #5
          Couldn't say it better than rybread did. Vasoconstriction coupled with the decreased ability to circulate the oxygen makes you more susceptible to pressure ulcers and much harder for them to heal. Don't use any tobacco, or if you are having trouble quitting, talk to your physician and see what they can recomend in your area for support.

          CKF
          The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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          • #6
            I quit a 2 packet day cold turkey and I only used a patch for a week. It was rough, but I got through it. And if I could do it, anyone could
            C-5/6, 7-9-2000
            Scottsdale, AZ

            Make the best out of today because yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never come. Nobody knows that better than those of us that have almost died from spinal cord injury.

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            • #7
              Studies have shown that the nicotine in tobacco products, either smoked, chewed, or dipped, can cause significant vasoconstriction. One cigarette can vasoconstrict your skin for up to 8 hours. Vasoconstriction results in less nutrients and oxygen going to your tissues, and to less removal of waste products from the tissues that can actually further interfere with healing. Even nicotine patches will cause this effect (as will nicotine gum).

              People with SCI who use tobacco products are 8X more likely to have pressure ulcers and to have poor healing. Like Rybread stated, we will not use a VAC or tissue matrix dressings, or do a flap on anyone who continues to use tobacco products, and require cessation of all use for at least 4 weeks prior to any flap surgery.

              (KLD)
              The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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              • #8
                Great smoke out day includes chewing too. Quitting is tough and the one day at a time works too. I have quit today to, well so far anyway. Wish me luck and will power.
                T6 complete

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the reminder that today is the "Great American Smoke-Out"!! It is the best day to quit...today! Ask for help if you need it. It makes it easier.

                  (KLD)
                  The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                  • #10
                    i don't really need help in quiting. the best thing for me is for me to not be around people who dip...that makes it a lot easier. i have been dipping about once a day...it makes time go by since i've been in bed for 5 weeks straight. i'll do my best to quit. it's stupid anyways...the thing that makes it hard is when you have a routine...damn tobacco companies, they friggin' suck.
                    -C6 incomplete
                    -injured January, 14th 2006 in roll-over

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                    • #11
                      Dipping and chewing also are high risk activities for the development of oral cancer. If you have seen the results of serious oral/pharangeal cancer, it can be a real incentive to stop dipping and chewing. Click here:
                      http://www.quittobacco.com/facts/effects.htm

                      (KLD)
                      Last edited by SCI-Nurse; 11-21-2008, 01:38 AM.
                      The SCI-Nurses are advanced practice nurses specializing in SCI/D care. They are available to answer questions, provide education, and make suggestions which you should always discuss with your physician/primary health care provider before implementing. Medical diagnosis is not provided, nor do the SCI-Nurses provide nursing or medical care through their responses on the CareCure forums.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by knowthill View Post
                        Great smoke out day includes chewing too. Quitting is tough and the one day at a time works too. I have quit today to, well so far anyway. Wish me luck and will power.
                        Best of luck to you, I've tried to quit many times unsuccessfully.
                        Dave
                        C5/C6 complete
                        http://www.davegrotzinger.com
                        http://www.daves-webdesign.com

                        "I knew all the rules but the rules did not know me guaranteed..." - Eddie Vedder

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                        • #13
                          Is it any worse for you than vicodin, neurontin ..........etc. etc. ?

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                          • #14
                            do like I did.... get an an angioplasti done and a stent put in, then I was told that the next heart attack I have I'll have to have a bypass. I quit that day. it scared the shit out of me. by the way I am only 45 now

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                            • #15
                              thanks for everyones help! i'm done today! that link SCI-Nurse put up kinda scares me, but theres a link to buy non-tobacco pouches on that site. if i find myself wanting a dip, i'll get some of those pouches.

                              i like my teeth, i just didn't realize how much i am/was hurting them.
                              -C6 incomplete
                              -injured January, 14th 2006 in roll-over

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