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    Motorcycle accidents and traumatic brain injury

    Here are some interesting statistics concerning motorcycles and head injury nationally and in West Virginia. Interestingly, West Virginia has the highest fatality rate from automobile accidents of any state in the Union (5.6 per 100,000 compared to nationally 0.74 per 100,000). Better wear your helmets and seatbelts when driving in West Virginia.

    http://www.ced.wvu.edu/Programs/Comm...isci/index.htm

    National Statistics

    * During 1996, 212 young motorcycle drivers (15-20 years old) were killed and additional 7,000 were injured.
    * In 1996, 51% of the motorcycle drivers between the ages of 15 to 20 who were fatally injured in crashes were not wearing helmets.
    * The National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration estimates that helmets saved the lives of 490 motorcyclists of all ages in 1996, and that if all motorcyclists had worn helmets, an additional 279 lives could have been saved.
    * Helmets are estimated to be 29% effective in preventing fatal injuries to motorcyclists.
    * A recent NHTSA study showed that motorcycle helmets are 67% effective in preventing brain injuries.
    * Among riders involved in crashes, those who do not wear helmets are 40% more likely to sustain a fatal brain injury.
    * In 1993, helmet use in the states with all-rider helmet laws resulted in 515 lives saved, 2,035 moderate to serious injuries prevented and more than $513 million saved.
    * A single brain-injured motorcyclist can cost a state more than $2 million over a lifetime.
    * Fatalities from brain injuries are twice as high in states with weak or no motorcycle helmet laws in comparison to states enforcing helmet laws.
    (Obtained from the National Brain Injury Association)
    * Every bicycle helmet saves this country $395 in direct health care costs and other costs to society.
    * If 85% of all child cyclists wore bicycle helmets for one year, the savings in medical costs would be between $109 million and $142 million.
    * A person who survives a head injury typically needs 5 to 10 years of intensive rehabilitation services. The estimated lifetime cost of these services may exceed $4 million per injured person.
    (Obtained from the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control)

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    Motorcycles and Traumatic Brain Injury?

    Hmmmmmmmmm????!!!??? Is this a "No Brainer"? LOLOL [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

    "And so it begins."
    "And so it begins."

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      #3
      A few days ago I saw a bareheaded girl in shorts on the back of a bike that was weaving through and just cringed. I don't know if it is the mother in me or the memory of all of the TBI on the other floor at rehab or just getting old.
      There is a fine line between not living your life to the fullest and being too afraid to do anything.
      It just makes sense to cut down risks when possible even when doing things you enjoy.

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        #4
        Life's funny, around here the guy with the "Helmet Laws Suck" decal on his brain-bucket is the guy that walks away from a crumpled up mass of death machine.

        It's fate. The people that can handle this life are just destined to be gimps, whether it be motorcycle or apple tree. Some people break their necks falling out of bed. Other people walk away from sky-diving accidents.

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          #5
          It is really quirky Tooley, I won't argue that. Fate-I'm not so sure of.
          Dave rode dirt bikes when he was younger, was in a helicopter crash while in Special Forces and took a slap shot to the eye as a kid because they did not use good helmets then in hockey. In later years he has problems with the eye.
          He is mad at himself for not wearing a safety harness while climbing the tree. He had one in his truck that he used each day for work.
          My belief is that these things are ramdom accidents.
          I wear a seat belt because I've been to 4 funeral of people that were tossed from card during roll overs.
          Someone told us since Dave was an "itty bitty baby" God knew he would fall from that tree. That is BS in my eyes. It was an accident.
          Still, like you, we strive to make the best of what life has tossed our way.

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            #6
            never wear seat belts that why i'm in this chair but if i did that day i wouldn't be here the impact pushed the dash into the seat so hard it broke the front seat bolts so i would have been cut in half. still don't wear them but thats so i can give myself pressure release when i'm driving.
            Street Dreamz c.c. maryland

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              #7
              I didn't have a helmet on when I had my accident, ended up with what they called a #4 concussion. Lucky that I lived!

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                #8
                My husband got his spinal cord injury from a motorcycle...and a brain injury. He was told if he was wearing his helmet he would not have survived....it would have crushed his skull...do not know if that is true or not...but I am willing to bet that helmets save more lives than distroy them.
                "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot nothing's going to get better. It's not." - Dr. Seuss

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by duge View Post
                  I didn't have a helmet on when I had my accident, ended up with what they called a #4 concussion. Lucky that I lived!
                  Oy, you had a GCS (Glasgow Coma Scale) classification of 4? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Coma_Scale

                  Wise.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tooley View Post
                    Life's funny, around here the guy with the "Helmet Laws Suck" decal on his brain-bucket is the guy that walks away from a crumpled up mass of death machine.

                    It's fate. The people that can handle this life are just destined to be gimps, whether it be motorcycle or apple tree. Some people break their necks falling out of bed. Other people walk away from sky-diving accidents.
                    Or that guy gets killed in a motorcycle helmet law protest ride: http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s..._motorcyc.html

                    When my brother had his TBI (roller blading without a helmet) the vast majority of the head injuries in the neuro ICU with him were due to riding without a helmet.

                    I don't believe it's fate.

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                      #11
                      Helmets

                      I rode motor scooters, motor bikes and motorcycles for 50 years without any crashes or serious injuries, except for my last ride that resulted in SCI ten years ago.

                      I am a firm believer in the use of helmets and seat belts in passenger vehicles. In my
                      SCI-producing wreck I was catapulted so violently that I fractured my breast bone, bruised both lungs and tore my descending aorta. The manner in which I hit the ground damaged my helmet. Without it I would have received a serious head injury or even death.

                      Always,
                      Fannie Wype
                      You C.A.N.
                      Conquer Adversity Now

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                        #12
                        My parents were told that had I been wearing my seatbelt, I would have been killed instantly. I lost 4 pints of blood in the five hours I was trapped in the car.

                        I believe that if it is your time to die...it is your time to die.

                        South Carolina politicians have been known to say that the lack of a helmet law saves them money. There are more deaths from motorcyclists without helmets but less long term hospital care for the injured. It was a hot issue several years ago.

                        My uncle (from SC) is one of those who believes he will live forever and chooses not to wear a helmet. He was hit by a truck last year and broke his neck with no cord damage but still wears no helmet. That was a hard phone call for me to get.
                        T12-L2; Burst fracture L1: Incomplete walking with AFO's and cane since 1989

                        My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am. ~Author Unknown

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wise Young View Post
                          Here are some interesting statistics concerning motorcycles and head injury nationally and in West Virginia. Interestingly, West Virginia has the highest fatality rate from automobile accidents of any state in the Union (5.6 per 100,000 compared to nationally 0.74 per 100,000). Better wear your helmets and seatbelts when driving in West Virginia.

                          http://www.ced.wvu.edu/Programs/Comm...isci/index.htm
                          i have a friend who is a mathematician/statistician via Harvard and he would tear this list to pieces. one on the things i learned from him, for a statistic you need a set of figures and most of these types of helmet ones are missing a key figure/number, therefore it is invalid, similar to a peer review of clinical trial missing a key item.
                          one of the more famous pro helmet statistics, quoted in every helmet loving bicycle article including consumer reports, was proved to be junk science, due to missing parameters, and the quoted paper also failed peer review,yet everybody kept quoting itfor many years after since it fit their needs. Kind of like weapons of mass destruction and invading Iraq
                          If i remember correctly motorcycle helmets are only rated and tested for for a 30 mph fall, bicycle helmets for 15mph, and many fail that test, even the priciest trek bicycle helmets had to be recalled. They only test an extremely low percentage and only test one size, and one model even though they may sell 20 models,19 will never get tested.
                          Bicycle helmets do not and were never designed to prevent/reduce concussions, and that is from a non motor vehicle involved fall/crash, Forget about having another vehicle involved! That info is from the helmet makers, i believe that goes for for motorcycle helmets too.
                          Football helmets which are much thicker and absorbing than bike helmets , do not prevent concussions, were not designed too. There is a new one by riddel out that is designed to prevent concussions, but it is not gaining acceptance since it is at least twice as thick.
                          Motorcycle Helmets may help your head from deep road rash , torn off face, but they also tend to break your neck,especially if you hit teeth /chin first like that #1 football player did on a motorcycle, i think in Pennsylvania. Football players changed over to the under helmet locked in padding to reduce broken necks, before this was done way too many high school kids got cervical injuries, many post here, now a days its a rarity and usually due to illegal technique or improper equipment set up, the same thing that causes many mountaineering injuries/fatalities. Doctors in the ER have no training in the field of statistical analysis but are always making quotes that are headline grabbing but meaningless and inaccurate.,since they do not have the full equation. Similar to a small town non sci trained doc telling the injured person and family that they will never ? again in the first 12 hours.
                          cauda equina

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by metronycguy View Post
                            i have a friend who is a mathematician/statistician via Harvard and he would tear this list to pieces. one on the things i learned from him, for a statistic you need a set of figures and most of these types of helmet ones are missing a key figure/number, therefore it is invalid, similar to a peer review of clinical trial missing a key item.
                            one of the more famous pro helmet statistics, quoted in every helmet loving bicycle article including consumer reports, was proved to be junk science, due to missing parameters, and the quoted paper also failed peer review,yet everybody kept quoting itfor many years after since it fit their needs. Kind of like weapons of mass destruction and invading Iraq
                            If i remember correctly motorcycle helmets are only rated and tested for for a 30 mph fall, bicycle helmets for 15mph, and many fail that test, even the priciest trek bicycle helmets had to be recalled. They only test an extremely low percentage and only test one size, and one model even though they may sell 20 models,19 will never get tested.
                            Bicycle helmets do not and were never designed to prevent/reduce concussions, and that is from a non motor vehicle involved fall/crash, Forget about having another vehicle involved! That info is from the helmet makers, i believe that goes for for motorcycle helmets too.
                            Football helmets which are much thicker and absorbing than bike helmets , do not prevent concussions, were not designed too. There is a new one by riddel out that is designed to prevent concussions, but it is not gaining acceptance since it is at least twice as thick.
                            Motorcycle Helmets may help your head from deep road rash , torn off face, but they also tend to break your neck,especially if you hit teeth /chin first like that #1 football player did on a motorcycle, i think in Pennsylvania. Football players changed over to the under helmet locked in padding to reduce broken necks, before this was done way too many high school kids got cervical injuries, many post here, now a days its a rarity and usually due to illegal technique or improper equipment set up, the same thing that causes many mountaineering injuries/fatalities. Doctors in the ER have no training in the field of statistical analysis but are always making quotes that are headline grabbing but meaningless and inaccurate.,since they do not have the full equation. Similar to a small town non sci trained doc telling the injured person and family that they will never ? again in the first 12 hours.
                            metronyguy,

                            Statistics of course can be abused. I agree that many of the conclusions in the list are likely to be poorly supported by data. For example, I shudder to think of the assumptions involved in calculating that helmets saved 490 lives in 1996. They may have assumed that every person involved in a motorcycle crash, who wore a helmet, and did not have a severe head injury was saved by the helmet. That would be erroneous of course.

                            On the other hand, they might have obtained the estimate of 490 lives by comparing fatality rates of helmet-wearing and non-helmet wearing motorcyclists involved in accidents. In truth, as long as one does not randomize helmet wearing, it is difficult to rule out certain variable. For example, the fact that one doesn't wear a helmet may indicate greater tolerance for risk, hence possibly higher speeds and more reckless driving by non-helmeted motorcyclists.

                            Some numbers give pause for thought. For example, the statement "Fatalities from brain injuries are twice as high in states with weak or no motorcycle helmet laws in comparison to states enforcing helmet laws" Sure, there are many possible explanation for these results but the most parsimonious explanation is that helmets save lives.

                            Wise.

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                              #15
                              So true, so bizarrely true,. What my sci left me as

                              Originally posted by tooley View Post
                              Life's funny, around here the guy with the "Helmet Laws Suck" decal on his brain-bucket is the guy that walks away from a crumpled up mass of death machine.

                              It's fate. The people that can handle this life are just destined to be gimps, whether it be motorcycle or apple tree. Some people break their necks falling out of bed. Other people walk away from sky-diving accidents.
                              My sci left me as the exact antithesis of everything that identified me as me. I mean EVERY characteristic of me. Too bizarre not to be some form of fate. I would never have believed it could be possible if it did not happen to me. It's as if some puppet master is playing this out like some freak form of entertainment for himself. It's been a slow dismantling of my physical self, my lifestyle, my career, my friends, my luck, and lastly......at least I have my family, right? Nah, at the exact moment when my family (marriage + children) was at its absolute stongest peak, positive best ever, out of no where comes this black cloud of pure evil that parks itself overhead my house and slowly, painfully, hellishly takes it all apart while can only sit by helplessly watching it. Despite my most sincere efforts, everything I try to either thwart it, or repair it goes awry, as if this satanic puppet master predicted my most exhausting attempts and transforms them into a destructive force rather than corrective for his sick, twisted mind to enjoy.

                              No shit, it's really how I feel.
                              Life couldn't suck more for me.
                              See ya'll on the other side.

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