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**bigbob** · 20 Jan 2005, 1:41 PM

He sounds like a Pr--K. But maybe he did us a favor.

From the article posted by Max
Eastwood fails to include mention that it is discrimination, poverty, and an inaccessible society that sometimes lead newly-injured people to abandon hope and choose death.

**Chris Chappell** · 20 Jan 2005, 2:38 PM

SCI suicide rates are among the highest of any group. Personally I've witnessed 3 in 4yrs. Two of them were guys I went through rehab with.

Not that I think CE is necessarily right but I understand his perspective. It is one that is more the expected societal norm than the exception. We, here at CC, are the other side of that expectation and exception.

And there's a reason why there's only 8 thousand plus members here - so far. I believe that the majority don't know that it (CC) exists and/or have become so hopeless as to not really care about the hand/fate being dealt. They're resigned and conditioned by society (media especially) that they will endure a horrible life - not worth living.

Is CE's perspective, as it applies to the societal norms, really that out of touch then?

We are a very unique group/community. The majority of the general public more than likely sees the movie as CE does whereas we do not. Interesting.

**bigbob** · 20 Jan 2005, 2:47 PM

Think it might be possible as a good gesture for movie theaters to hand out a little brochure or even business card recommending the CareCure website? Or, when it is released in DVD to put our website on the envelope?

Help is available at CareCure

**fuentejps** · 20 Jan 2005, 3:12 PM

nothingwrong w/ that. he helped die, i hope if the time ever comes and i cant do it myself, someone i luv helps me go.

**SCI-Nurse** · 20 Jan 2005, 8:22 PM

Hasn't opened here yet, but I will be seeing a sneak next week with the Cinema Society. Have already arranged for one of my clients (C4) to go to participate in the discussion group after the film. Should be interesting!

(KLD)

**Max** · 22 Jan 2005, 7:23 PM

Disabled groups condemn Eastwood euthanasia film

Disabled groups condemn Eastwood euthanasia film
By James Langton in New York
(Filed: 23/01/2005)

Clint Eastwood, the Hollywood screen legend, is under fire from disabled groups who say that his latest award-winning film is thinly disguised propaganda for euthanasia.

Eastwood is the director of Million Dollar Baby, a drama about a female boxer described as "Rocky in a sports bra," in which he also stars alongside Hilary Swank and Morgan Freeman.

The film went on general release in the United States earlier this month and critics identified it as a leading contender for an Academy Award after Swank and Eastwood won Golden Globes for Best Actress and Best Director.

Ostensibly, the film is about a young boxer who turns to an elderly trainer to take her to the top. Yet audiences have been astonished by an unheralded plot twist in which a leading character becomes crippled in a serious accident and begs to be put to death.

The film's detractors accuse Warner Brothers, the studio that made it, of deliberately concealing the grim ending. A number of religious right-to-life groups are also upset because Eastwood's character is a devout Roman Catholic who attends mass every day.

Debbie Schlussel, a conservative television and radio commentator, described the film as a "million dollar lie" and a "cover story to suck moviegoers in for a nefarious message." She said that the film supported "killing the handicapped, literally putting their lights out".

The National Spinal Cord Injury Association, one of America's most respected organisations for disabled people, accused Eastwood of a "disability vendetta," describing the last scene of the film as a "brilliantly executed attack on life after a spinal cord injury."

Eastwood clashed previously with the charity when he spent $600,000 (Â£319,500) fighting a legal order to make his Mission Ranch Hotel in Carmel, California, accessible to handicapped people.

Marcia Roth, the association's chief executive, said the star was using the "power of fame and film to perpetuate his view that the lives of people with disabilities are not worth living."

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**chasb** · 22 Jan 2005, 11:47 PM

I think this topic is a little hard on Mr. Eastwood. I doubt he has a "vendetta" against anyone, infact quite the opposite.

**Cris** · 23 Jan 2005, 6:56 AM

Hard to comment w/o seeing the film but I think it drops quality of life center stage and have no problem with it.

I'm not saying right or wrong but I imagine every Quad, if not every SCI, has faced this.
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**Max** · 23 Jan 2005, 9:01 AM

Eastwood film under fire

Eastwood film under fire
By James Langton
New York
January 24, 2005

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Clint Eastwood, the Hollywood screen legend, is under fire from disabled groups who say that his latest award-winning film is thinly disguised propaganda for euthanasia.

Eastwood is the director of Million Dollar Baby, about a female boxer described as "Rocky in a sports bra", in which he also stars alongside Hilary Swank and Morgan Freeman. The film was released in the United States this month and critics have identified it as a leading contender for an Academy Award. It is about a young boxer (Swank) who turns to an elderly trainer (Eastwood) to take her to the top.

Preview audiences have been astonished by a plot twist in which one of the leading characters becomes crippled in a serious accident and begs to be put to death.

Detractors accuse Warner Brothers, the studio that made it, of deliberately concealing the grim ending to avoid upsetting audiences. A number of religious right-to-life groups are also upset because Eastwood's character is a Roman Catholic who attends Mass every day.

Debbie Schlussel, a conservative
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**Max** · 23 Jan 2005, 9:05 AM

In my opinion -with all this controversy & publicity it all works to our advantage[img]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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**Max** · 23 Jan 2005, 10:19 AM

Eastwood ripped over film's plot twist

Eastwood ripped over film's plot twist

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By United Press International
Sunday, January 23, 2005

Clint Eastwood is taking a few jabs for his latest award-winning film, "Million Dollar Baby," which was released in the United States this month.

The Warner Bros. drama about a female boxer who asks an aging trainer to help her become a champion takes an unexpected turn when a leading character becomes disabled in a serious accident and wants to be put to death.

Detractors say the studio, Eastwood and critics conceal a grim ending to promote euthanasia, the Sunday Telegraph reports.

"Warner Brothers never tells you the truth
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**MrSoul** · 23 Jan 2005, 7:43 PM

A number of religious right-to-life groups are also upset because Eastwood's character is a Roman Catholic who attends Mass every day.

Well, so am I, and I can tell you, you just don't find Catholics who go to Mass every day who are pro-euthanasia. [img]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] That's just ridiculous. And you won't find Orthodox Jews or Muslims who eat pork at lunch, either. I mean, it just DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY... [img]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I find the whole concept as anti-Catholic as I find it anti-gimp, but then I admit the bias, in both directions.

Agree, Max, this has been a good way to get the message out. [img]/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif[/img]

Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards.-- SÃ¸ren Kierkegaard

**Max** · 24 Jan 2005, 2:45 PM

Million Dollar Baby Draws Flak from Spinal Injury Groups
By James Wray
Jan 23, 2005, 22:28 GMT

Clint Eastwood's boxing drama "Million Dollar Baby" is under attack from The National Spinal Cord Injury Association.

The award-winning movie, which is tipped for some Oscar gongs, follows a veteran fighter who works with a dedicated woman, training her as she attempts to establish herself as a boxer. Eastwood directed and stars in the movie along with Morgan Freeman and Hilary Swank.

The part of the movie drawing flak is towards the end when one character suffers a spinal injury and pleads to be allowed to die.

The association says this last scene is a "brilliantly executed attack on life after a spinal cord injury."

Eastwood himself has kept pretty quiet on the matter and Warner Bros. has certainly not highlighted this part of the movie.

The veteran actor said he was not pro-euthanasia and the movie just reflected some of the dilemmas people face in real life.

You can find out more about "Million Dollar Baby" and read a review in our database.

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**Max** · 26 Jan 2005, 9:43 AM

Censure for Eastwood's euthanasia film

Censure for Eastwood's euthanasia film

Staff and agencies
Wednesday January 26, 2005

Clint Eastwood's Oscar-nominated film Million Dollar Baby has come under attack from far right and disabled groups in the US for its treatment of euthanasia.
The boxing drama, which has seven nominations and for which Eastwood has already picked up the Golden Globe for best director, along with best actress for Hilary Swank, shows its leading character begging to be put to death after becoming crippled in a serious accident.

Conservative television commentator Debbie Schlussel has described the movie as a "million dollar lie". She said it was a "cover story to suck moviegoers in for a nefarious message which supported killing the handicapped, literally putting their lights out."

America's National Spinal Cord Injury Association accused Eastwood of a "disability vendetta". A spokesman labelled the film's final scene "a brilliantly executed attack on life after a spinal cord injury."

Eastwood himself is nominated for best actor and best director for the film, which is based on a short story by the former fight manager and cutman Jerry Boyd, writing under the pen-name FX Toole. The veteran actor also took on producer's duties.

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