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  • #31
    After seeing more about their families and lifestyles it's rich girls in wheelchairs. I'm having a hard time relating to the upper class. I live in public housing and owning a car is out of the question. Then again l'm not on TV. Still an interesting show for us crips.
    Just another tricky day. C5/6 incomplete, 43 years out.

    You'll get through.

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    • #32
      Thanks for the review guys, the show sounds interesting. I don't have sundance, where can I watch it?
      A dolla makes me holla, honey boo boo! - borrowed from Honey boo boo child

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      • #33
        hulu has one ep, itunes... online streaming....
        "Smells like death in a bucket of chicken!"
        http://www.elportavoz.com/

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        • #34
          Originally posted by crypticgimp View Post
          hulu has one ep, itunes... online streaming....
          Ok I'll check it out on ITunes - Thanks.
          A dolla makes me holla, honey boo boo! - borrowed from Honey boo boo child

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          • #35
            Originally posted by wtf View Post
            Ok I'll check it out on ITunes - Thanks.
            If you missed season 1, like I did, it is available for streaming on netflix.

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            • #36
              I was honestly pretty annoyed and disappointed with Auti. She is very whiny and intense about everything. I probably would not want to surround myself with her very often. I'm hoping to learn something positive from her this season. So far since I've been watching the show I have only learned that she is dramatic, emotional and disrespectful when conflict arises. She brings most of her problems on herself in my opinion and is not productive in resolving it. I wasn't impressed with her honesty because I think it comes naturally for her. She has no filter and doesn't know how to be other than emotionally and brutally honest (don't get me wrong, I love honesty but she has to impress me in a different way). Hope to see a positive change in her in the next show.
              DFW TEXAS- T-10 since March 20th, 1994

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              • #37
                she is honest but... it's all about her and refuses to self reflect. even the shrink have a look of wtf when she started screaming.

                angela bothers me. there is NO WAY IN HELL i'd treat a family member like that. waking her up every half hour? no fucking way. either suck it up or find a good pain management dr. she lives in LA, they cannot be too hard to find like plastic surgeons. with all the medication options, she can find some relief even just a tiny bit for the pain, but dont wake up ur family like that.
                "Smells like death in a bucket of chicken!"
                http://www.elportavoz.com/

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by crypticgimp View Post
                  she is honest but... it's all about her and refuses to self reflect. even the shrink have a look of wtf when she started screaming.

                  angela bothers me. there is NO WAY IN HELL i'd treat a family member like that. waking her up every half hour? no fucking way. either suck it up or find a good pain management dr. she lives in LA, they cannot be too hard to find like plastic surgeons. with all the medication options, she can find some relief even just a tiny bit for the pain, but dont wake up ur family like that.
                  Yep, I totally agree.

                  I didn't like the way she was with waking her aunt up either. I love her attitude though. I would like to see her take on more than what she does. She seems to use the Quad card a lot with things that other Quads do on their own. If she took on more of a "how can I do this on my own" attitude then I think she would be so awesome.

                  Right now I have to say Tiphany and Mia are my faves. They are totally down to take on anything. I seriously want to go down the stairs backwards like they do.....And that god damn bull.....My husband so no way would he let me do it....EVER! PFT!

                  Chelsey is ok. She is emotional too but not as confrontational as Auti. We shall see how that works out!
                  DFW TEXAS- T-10 since March 20th, 1994

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by offroaderswife View Post
                    Yep, I totally agree.

                    I didn't like the way she was with waking her aunt up either. I love her attitude though. I would like to see her take on more than what she does. She seems to use the Quad card a lot with things that other Quads do on their own. If she took on more of a "how can I do this on my own" attitude then I think she would be so awesome.

                    Right now I have to say Tiphany and Mia are my faves. They are totally down to take on anything. I seriously want to go down the stairs backwards like they do.....And that god damn bull.....My husband so no way would he let me do it....EVER! PFT!

                    Chelsey is ok. She is emotional too but not as confrontational as Auti. We shall see how that works out!
                    angela suffers from learned helplessness and it's a hard thing to overcome. as a kid with no use of my fingers i was more independent than angela. and you're right. she needs to switch up that attitude. some pain meds, electric night bag and she would be set for night time and learn to deal. she wore out her husband and her aunt, her behavior is destructive and pouting at her age is severely unattractive.
                    "Smells like death in a bucket of chicken!"
                    http://www.elportavoz.com/

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by crypticgimp View Post
                      she is honest but... it's all about her and refuses to self reflect. even the shrink have a look of wtf when she started screaming.

                      angela bothers me. there is NO WAY IN HELL i'd treat a family member like that. waking her up every half hour? no fucking way. either suck it up or find a good pain management dr. she lives in LA, they cannot be too hard to find like plastic surgeons. with all the medication options, she can find some relief even just a tiny bit for the pain, but dont wake up ur family like that.
                      OMG YES. I had a totol wtf look as well, I meant to ask about that here. The shrink looked so shocked I was wondering if Auti just decided to suddenly scream, or what?! People are sometimes asked to scream in therapy so I could see her having been asked to do so and just let it out, but we didn't see any asking and everyone looked so startled it seemed like she just decided to scream. I hope they have thick walls, or I feel for the patients in the waiting room.

                      I thought the same about Angela, I was really shocked about that. I've been awake for days at a time due to pain and never woken anyone up. In fact the instances where it was happening I was very careful to not wake up my boyfriend, or my roommates by the fact that I was awake all night due to pain. If the pain is bad, take something. I understand not wanting to take pain meds that mess with your head, I feel the same way and would not take any meds that made me feel high or disoriented all the time. But even if there aren't any meds that don't do that to her (doubtful) if she's not sleeping, and waking up family, why not at least take pain meds at night when she's going to be sleeping and who cares if she's a little loopy?

                      My stepsister is really sick and also has chronic pain. She takes less pain meds and less strong of pain meds than I take. But she's really really loopy so to speak, beyond a total flake, and everyone in the family always blames the pain meds. I'm constantly saying its either NOT the pain meds, or she's on the wrong ones. They aren't supposed to do that to you.
                      Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

                      I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by crypticgimp View Post
                        angela suffers from learned helplessness and it's a hard thing to overcome. as a kid with no use of my fingers i was more independent than angela. and you're right. she needs to switch up that attitude. some pain meds, electric night bag and she would be set for night time and learn to deal. she wore out her husband and her aunt, her behavior is destructive and pouting at her age is severely unattractive.
                        I LOVE THAT! Learned helplessness! I know a few AB people that I can describe with that phrase.
                        DFW TEXAS- T-10 since March 20th, 1994

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                        • #42
                          learned helplessness is an actual psychological diagnosis, it can happen to anyone.
                          Board Member of Assistance Dog Advocacy Project working in Education. Feel free to ask me any service dog questions!

                          I am not paralyzed. I have a genetic connective tissue disorder with neuro complications and a movement disorder.

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                          • #43
                            I have to politely disagree here. I don't think any of us can really know what it is to be Angela and it seems like there are some kind of harsh judgements happening. I don't want to start some kind of brouhaha on this thread, just offer my thoughts. From what I have read on carecure, there are many shades and variations in disability when it comes to being a quad and two people with almost the exact same injury can have very different levels of function. Is it possible that Angela is not doing as much for herself as she could be? Yes. However, she does not strike me as that type of person. We have seen her put herself out there in a lot of challenging ways, including high fashion modeling, skiing, and taking a cross-country trip.

                            Not everyone can get their pain even remotely under control, I know from experience. I have literally been to the top hospitals all over the country, tried almost every medication on the market, had surgeries, an implant, procedures like lidocaine infusions and botox and nothing has helped whatsoever. Without knowing what Angela has tried for pain, I wouldn't expect that she simply hasn't tried hard enough. Maybe she has tried really hard and we just don't know.

                            I do think it is really complicated when your caregiver is a family member. It was unfortunate to watch her wake her aunt up so many times in the night, but I have been there myself. I hope people here wouldn't judge me or think me selfish for doing that. When you have tried everything you can think of and you are shaking from pain in your bed, and you know that a quick massage of a spasming limb or a simple ice pack could give you some relief, I do think it is understandable to call out to a family member and have them help you. Does it suck for everyone involved? Yes. My parents have never begrudged me the middle of the night wakeup, even though it makes them tired the next day for work. And there have been some nights where I woke them up multiple times. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. Somehow we all manage to get through, and it doesn't happen that often. If we could see another way to live, we would be taking that road in a second. I guess this just gives me a lot of compassion and empathy for Angela. I don't see her as helpless. I see her as someone who needs a hand with some things, but also as a person who is actively working to shape her life in spite of huge challenges. Just my thoughts.
                            In our world constituted of differences of all kinds, it is not the disabled, but society at large that needs special education...to become a genuine society for all. -Frederic Major, Former UNESCO Director General

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by NikkiMaya View Post
                              I have to politely disagree here. I don't think any of us can really know what it is to be Angela and it seems like there are some kind of harsh judgements happening. I don't want to start some kind of brouhaha on this thread, just offer my thoughts. From what I have read on carecure, there are many shades and variations in disability when it comes to being a quad and two people with almost the exact same injury can have very different levels of function. Is it possible that Angela is not doing as much for herself as she could be? Yes. However, she does not strike me as that type of person. We have seen her put herself out there in a lot of challenging ways, including high fashion modeling, skiing, and taking a cross-country trip.

                              Not everyone can get their pain even remotely under control, I know from experience. I have literally been to the top hospitals all over the country, tried almost every medication on the market, had surgeries, an implant, procedures like lidocaine infusions and botox and nothing has helped whatsoever. Without knowing what Angela has tried for pain, I wouldn't expect that she simply hasn't tried hard enough. Maybe she has tried really hard and we just don't know.

                              I do think it is really complicated when your caregiver is a family member. It was unfortunate to watch her wake her aunt up so many times in the night, but I have been there myself. I hope people here wouldn't judge me or think me selfish for doing that. When you have tried everything you can think of and you are shaking from pain in your bed, and you know that a quick massage of a spasming limb or a simple ice pack could give you some relief, I do think it is understandable to call out to a family member and have them help you. Does it suck for everyone involved? Yes. My parents have never begrudged me the middle of the night wakeup, even though it makes them tired the next day for work. And there have been some nights where I woke them up multiple times. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. Somehow we all manage to get through, and it doesn't happen that often. If we could see another way to live, we would be taking that road in a second. I guess this just gives me a lot of compassion and empathy for Angela. I don't see her as helpless. I see her as someone who needs a hand with some things, but also as a person who is actively working to shape her life in spite of huge challenges. Just my thoughts.
                              i dont see her as helpless. i said she has learned helplessness, that is a different thing. in particular her season one excuses of why she cannot get a job, namely because she cannot type. there is adaptive equipment and technology to help her with those things. while certainly not perfect (oh the woes of using dragon!!!) but it was pathetic to hear the (paraphrase) "my only option to make money is to model because i cannot use my hands to type" also, being a secretary is NOT the only job option available but i guess if you decided to become a model and not get an education, that limits your options.

                              furthermore, she has said that her husband taking care of her partially contributed to their divorce. AND the fact that he made not one but TWO financial plans for her when he doesnt even live in the country shows how fargone her learned helplessness is. she couldve spent some money to get a financial planner and get some advice, or do it herself but yet this is also the woman who thought going into a nursing home for 3yrs was a good idea; with no plan, mind you, for after those 3yrs.

                              i also did not say her pain can be fully managed. i have yet to meet someone whose pain is fully managed, not even my own. but there are some clues from what she said/does. she got a ugly tattoo in one of the most tender places to get one (also, that money couldve gone towards a financial planner) but also her pain happens mostly at night. so you could take meds to help just at night. it takes a looooonnnggg time to establish a relationship with your dr and to find something to cut the edge and some never get that but they do try.

                              also her aunt very politely put her foot down and angela did the whole pouty face thing and i was proud of her aunt to basically say "that isnt going to work" which will hlp angela break free of this learned helplessness where her aunt just automatically does for her.

                              we shall see the growth hopefully of all these women
                              "Smells like death in a bucket of chicken!"
                              http://www.elportavoz.com/

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by crypticgimp View Post
                                we shall see the growth hopefully of all these women
                                Lol, yes.
                                In our world constituted of differences of all kinds, it is not the disabled, but society at large that needs special education...to become a genuine society for all. -Frederic Major, Former UNESCO Director General

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